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    Jahaudant's Avatar
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    Jahaudant Rivea
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Flash > Fast Blade > Circle of Scorn (no GCD) > Savage Blade > Spirits Within (no GCD) > Rage of Halone

    This combo, taking roughly 3-4 seconds to complete should generate (estimating) around 6000 enmity. Once that initial enmity spike has been established maintaining it as a PLD on a single target is laughably easy. This takes care of your single target / boss tanking woes easily.

    As for multi and trash pulls, I'm not sure I can tell if you are speaking from first hand experience or theory crafting. The way you are describing regen enmity gain shouldn't cause a problem for any attentive PLD. I believe enmity from cured HP is split up and applied evenly to all mobs you currently have pulled. For example, rather than that 1700 enmity Cure/Regen tic being applied to each of the 3 mobs you have just pulled, you actually get 566 enmity on each mob. Easily low enough for a responsive tank to overcome with a Flash. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this!

    If this is still a problem you are encountering I can only suggest that you avoid precasting regen on every single party member, or asking your group to refrain from performing any actions for 2-3 seconds after the tank engages.
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    Last edited by Jahaudant; 08-29-2013 at 11:37 PM.

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    KiraHime's Avatar
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    Kira Hime
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by KatzeTitania View Post
    Cut for text limit sorry
    It was done deliberately to test this issue, but why should a tank be forced to wait on pulling the next set of trash mobs if he has regen still active from last pull? Also SCH has a skill from their fairy Whispering Dawn which targets all members in radius, which I imagine causes them tremendous enmity issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    Cut for text limit sorry
    To answer your question we discovered enmity generation issues with regen during Titan Hard, and my above examples on trash mobs were deliberate experimentation. As to the enmity being split across mobs, I am mainly concerned with this in a single boss fight setting.

    For a single target example I can say that during one Titan Hard run I did nothing but kept up a regen rotation for first phase, while the other WHM did all other cures as required. When he used Geocrush and I cast Medica II on the party I pulled hate momentarily and had to hit shroud of saints. I have main healed my tank for years and he is no slouch, especially when we are pursuing world firsts.

    The fact that with a HoT alone I was higher on the hate list than 5 DPS in full Darklight/penta melded darksteel with relics cannot be intended. If nothing else, the implications for SCH as a main healer on prolonged fights in endgame instances is enough reason for this to be looked at again.
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    Last edited by KiraHime; 08-30-2013 at 01:39 AM.