Bard really?

[Dubheitte]

I agree. If they hadn't stealth changed the "sub" class from CNJ to PUG, I could be a BRD already and happy to play one. As it stands now, I have to level a class I don't like (PUG) to 15 just to get it. It also lost all the support ability that drew me to the job in the first place. Now I'm working on getting CNJ to 30 for my unicorn, as well as ACN to try out SCH. I already have my ARC to 28, so I'll level it to 30, level PUG to 15, and get BRD in case they improve the class.

[Duelle]

Archer is cool DPS got it
Bard... Has no healing spell's
Bard... Has songs but we must Stand RIGHT by people 1 song at a time.. Songs in which don't buff the BRD.
Bard... Has a HEALING Limit Break... SE what one is it? healing or DPS?

Bard is a DPS with group cooldowns, similar to an enhancing shaman if you want a WoW comparison. Instead of having Bloodlust/Heroism, you have MP and TP regen songs. I agree on the thing with the limit break, but I have a feeling that BRD's limit break will change when they introduce Musketeer.

PS: The FFXI Bard and the word "badass" are so far apart that they are in different universes. Leliana was a badass bard. The bard from The Bard's Tale was a badass bard. Even the D&D Bard is closer to the word than FFXI's infamous princess job.

[UllrHellfire]

Bottom line here is BRD lacks direction yes it's flexible to a point 3 Songs, 2 help others which really don't help, DPS Yes they can do some good DPS but what's stopping you from just being an archer then " Rain of Death " pff hardly worth it unlike 1.0, YES I GET IT THIS IS 2.0 but still.. Is this DMG that far from just rolling archer. As for AF Ok got it some dudes like wearing heels or some places that's normal... I'm a realist A Highlander Hume male.. and other races.. I apologize as a grown man I don't want to wear tights and lil skirts and heels.. " Pick a deffer job " simply putt.. No, And as far as Healing Limit break it's out of place Most of the other classes have a limit break that for the most part does with there job. PLD giant stone skin, BLM Meteor, SMN a ION BEAM... So brd with no healing what so ever gets a Mass heal which looks Allot like the CON limit break? How about a AOE of all the songs~ or a Gnarly Arrow barrage.. just needs a little tweeking.

[Aegis]

You're about two years late, friend.

People complained about how bard should have been more support-focused and how it should have been its own class rather than being 'tacked on' to Archer as soon as it was released. In the transition to version 2 they have made it even less support-capable than it was before.

My sympathy doesn't lie with the Archers (whose job is of very limited use compared to other classes' jobs) since there is always a place in raids for ranged non-magical DD. My sympathy lies with those who really wanted to play BRD as it has always been in FF (and RPGs in general) as a pure supporting class.

[UllrHellfire]

You're about two years late, friend.

People complained about how bard should have been more support-focused and how it should have been its own class rather than being 'tacked on' to Archer as soon as it was released. In the transition to version 2 they have made it even less support-capable than it was before.

My sympathy doesn't lie with the Archers (whose job is of very limited use compared to other classes' jobs) since there is always a place in raids for ranged non-magical DD. My sympathy lies with those who really wanted to play BRD as it has always been in FF (and RPGs in general) as a pure supporting class.

And I agree I just wish they putt a little more effort into it, as to picking a role in which the job has. Id love to have BRD support role or like they did with Anarchist have it split BRD support Musketeer DPS. We shall see I guess.

[Darkov]

I'm happy that Bard is supposed to be a DPS job now, though Foe's Requiem is useless outside of boss fights because it agro's everything everywhere and the regen songs are really only needed when things go wrong and you need to help top up the healers MP or the tanks TP. Limit break needs to be changed to damage too.

Right now, Archer is simply better for everything but the boss fights when things go wrong. Bard simply doesn't add enough to the group or the Bard itself to justify it as a job, the other jobs all bring more to their base class and group.

[Chazychaz]

#1 I think BRD does need to be altered a bit because with the new Thaumaturge blizzard ability, you get insane MP regen as long as you have the buff on which defeats the purpose of MP recharge for the exception of the tank really.

#2 Players need to learn how to play BRD properly for the most part. in FFXI BRD was constantly running around the battlefield buffing each party member with a different buff. People have gotten lazy.

#3 Complaining about the AF? Anyone remember Dancer AF in FFXI? We all thought it looked awesome. No one complains that female characters are wearing 'male' clothing. Get over it.

[UllrHellfire]

#1 I think BRD does need to be altered a bit because with the new Thaumaturge blizzard ability, you get insane MP regen as long as you have the buff on which defeats the purpose of MP recharge for the exception of the tank really.

#2 Players need to learn how to play BRD properly for the most part. in FFXI BRD was constantly running around the battlefield buffing each party member with a different buff. People have gotten lazy.

#3 Complaining about the AF? Anyone remember Dancer AF in FFXI? We all thought it looked awesome. No one complains that female characters are wearing 'male' clothing. Get over it.

First off Even if you did move around the songs would not matter, So as soon as the bard walks away and gives songs to some one else they come off the current ones so that's a invalid statement.
Second AF even in XI has sex specific changes



next flame....

[Tribunus]

First off Even if you did move around the songs would not matter, So as soon as the bard walks away and gives songs to some one else they come off the current ones so that's a invalid statement.
Second AF even in XI has sex specific changes



next flame....

Your mixing your classes up that picture is dancer from FFXI, also playing a song and moving around so you could give everyone a specific buff did not remove other players buffs.

If your going to complain atleast get your facts straight, you look stupid complaining about something you that seem to know nothing about.

you look like a bigger idiot for not reading in regards to why i posted the picture.. So don't troll on something you did not even bother reading on. stupid.

Not really, the picture isnt really the issue its the fact you stated a mechanic regarding bard in FFXI and your incorrect, really if your going to quote my entire post dont cherry pick parts to stroke your own ego. Stupid.

[wingofbenu]

Your mixing your classes up that picture is dancer from FFXI, also playing a song and moving around so you could give everyone a specific buff did not remove other players buffs.

If your going to complain atleast get your facts straight, you look stupid complaining about something you that seem to know nothing about.

I'd also point out the ffXI dancer AF includes high heels on the male boots.