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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    YT game reviewers are to journalism what a kindergarten fingerpainting class is to Picasso.
    I must've gone blind. Can you show me where I mentioned Youtube?
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    Kthxbai

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    Jesus, people will cry about anything. Even if the game was perfect, someone would find something to cry about, like saying that the color red in the game isn't red enough.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asriah View Post
    Material usage license.

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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    Sorry, OP. But there is already a thread about this topic on page 1

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...age-License%29

    Please, don't make a new thread if the old thread is still on page 1. It reduce your daily new thread allowance for nothing.
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    Last edited by Felis; 08-29-2013 at 08:56 PM.

  4. #74
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    I'm going to say it, just because no one else has. Stop the Youtubers advertising the game before the servers break again.

    Joking aside, even if they aren't going to get paid for making videos, as long as they make the videos good enough and the person who is commentating is entertaining, then people will check out there other stuff. As someone said before me, people don't find the game entertaining, its the PERSON which makes the videos fun.

    If a Youtuber is serious about what they do, then they will simply see making videos for this game as another door to there channel.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echou View Post
    I must've gone blind. Can you show me where I mentioned Youtube?
    It's what the entire thread is about....

    Unless this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Echou View Post
    Yeah! Journalism isn't a job! Get a real job, like a steel mill worker or a doctor! Positions, fellow warriors!

    Kthxbai
    ...was in no way related to the actual thread it's in. Actual journalists get permission from SE to use their copyrighted material when they make a review and are not affected. People who are not receiving any kind of revenue are equally not affected. What kind of journalism were you referring to if not monetised user generated reviews on video sharing sites like Youtube? They are the only people affected by this issue.


    Quid pro quo:
    Quote Originally Posted by Echou View Post
    I must've gone blind. Can you show me where I mentioned Youtube?
    Quote Originally Posted by Echou View Post
    Yeah! Journalism isn't a job! Get a real job, like a steel mill worker or a doctor! Positions, fellow warriors!
    I must have gone blind. Can you show me where anyone stated explicitly that no form of journalism is a job?
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by GinTama View Post
    LoL its not work its a hobby, at least those YT you mean.
    No it's not a hobby. Guys like jesse cox, tb and such make a living out of youtube. It's a work, deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheer View Post
    What's wrong is his perception that videos of game footage are a form of "entertainment" - people don't watch videos of games because they find it entertaining. They watch videos because they either 1) want to see actual, unbias, in-game footage to get an honest assessment of the game before purchasing it, or 2) they watch the videos because they find the person who made said video entertaining.
    Ever watch the video of the guy who beat Super Mario 3 in 11 minutes? Now that's entertainment!
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilair View Post
    No it's not a hobby. Guys like jesse cox, tb and such make a living out of youtube. It's a work, deal with it.
    If they do it without permission it is piracy, not legal work. Ask a copyright lawyer.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    If they do it without permission it is piracy, not legal work. Ask a copyright lawyer.
    Really? Without premission? So the gamecode they get sent by gamedevelopers is not a premission to showcase their game?

    For those who say all videomaking on youtube is a hobby, ever seen the angryjoe reviews? The amount of effort he puts into his reviews, its insane. And all the props he buys. Yeah, thats not a real reviewer job at all...
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    For God to be good, evil is an absolute necessity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyronic View Post
    Really? Without premission? So the gamecode they get sent by gamedevelopers is not a premission to showcase their game?

    For those who say all videomaking on youtube is a hobby, ever seen the angryjoe reviews? The amount of effort he puts into his reviews, its insane. And all the props he buys. Yeah, thats not a real reviewer job at all...
    It's not. The gamecode you or anyone else gets is only a license to play the game NOT to showcase the game. In fact, if they didn't have that license that allowed us to showcase the game it would be illegal to stream or upload video. What these youtubers need to do is what professionals do and contact the company to get an expanded license to be able to do more than the average Joe can do with the product.
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