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    abesut's Avatar
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    Rau Quby
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Buff Enkindle - Summoner spell

    Yeah like the title says; please buff the Enkindle spell for Summoner.

    Enkindle got a 200-300 potency depending on what pet uses it.
    It got a 300sec cd.
    The AOE is fairly small.

    Meanwhile we have BLMs who got flare with a potency of 260, (which is about the same dmg as Enkindle). So far everything is good, except a BLM can cast it again, and again as long as he/she has mp for it (convert etc). and a 2.5recast timer... >_>

    How does that make sense?

    What I'm asking for is that they either reduce the cd on the ability or increase the potency.

    EDIT: Just wanted to add; been speaking with quite a few SMNs already and we all agree on that the 5yd aoe range for their signature move should be at least doubled to 10yd radius :P let me know if you agree


    Thank you!
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    Last edited by abesut; 09-02-2013 at 07:39 PM.

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    Warlyx Arada
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    same goes for RUIN , is a 2.5s nuke still does 80 potency .....vs stone blizzard and fire ...140.....lol
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    Crescent Dusk
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    Even worse is Tri-Disaster and Miasma II.

    Tridisaster is hitting for a pitiful 60 damage on a 3 second cast time.

    Miasma II is a horrible 20 initial, 10 dot poteny pbaoe.

    Then you have the pet commands not including Enkindle. Both the Ifrit and Garuda got a 30 sec ability that does a 80-90 potency AoE...


    Summoner has virtually no burst aoe at all and it really guts him in dungeons like Vale where you have to kill all the eggs in time on the final boss. Bane just doesn't cut it.


    I dread Garuda hard mode on summoner when it comes to feather killing duty...
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    I agree, SMN feels really underpowered atm, and the fact that I'm not heavily penalized when my egi dies in a boss fight, just shows how little damage they do. Not to mention their low amount of hp >_> Only Titan-egi has enough to take a beating.
    Hope that they buff Summoner in general, if not, then at least up the dmg on their pets; 80-90 potency is ridicules. Even garuda-egi Wind Blade does low dmg.
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    Yesuntei Bayaqud
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    Have to agree with the above. I got miasma II today and when i used it i was like wtf is this? Summoners needs a small buff overall.
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    Hamburgers Nwootbeer
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    Summoner is actually really high dmg right now. and ruin potency is low because your petnuke makes it the same as all the other classes nukes
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    Virtual On
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamburgers View Post
    Summoner is actually really high dmg right now. and ruin potency is low because your petnuke makes it the same as all the other classes nukes
    This, they're REALLY high single target, and AoE is high over time, but no burst AoE.

    That's the only thing they're lacking, and imo, why we have Enkindle.
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    Malakaz Vosoma
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    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    This, they're REALLY high single target, and AoE is high over time, but no burst AoE.

    That's the only thing they're lacking, and imo, why we have Enkindle.
    Summoner has high single target damage? I am not seeing it at all what I am seeing is all the other dps classes leaving us in the dust in terms of damage. Watching my brother dragoon annihilate enemies in seconds and watching my friends monk crush things yeah I am not seeing this HIGH single target damage. Heck even warrior has a 300 potency attack that they can use often and lets not forget giving them back huge amounts of hp.

    Talking with other summoners on this forum, on twitch and in the game too and they all feel their damage is pitiful compared to other classes. I ignored them I kept saying to myself its going to get better and its not.

    I am re rolling to a black mage and right now I am melting peoples faces off.
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    Last edited by shinros; 08-30-2013 at 04:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinros View Post
    Summoner has high single target damage? I am not seeing it at all what I am seeing is all the other dps classes leaving us in the dust in terms of damage. Watching my brother dragoon annihilate enemies in seconds and watching my friends monk crush things yeah I am not seeing this HIGH single target damage. Heck even warrior has a 300 potency attack that they can use often and lets not forget giving them back huge amounts of hp.

    Talking with other summoners on this forum, on twitch and in the game too and they all feel their damage is pitiful compared to other classes. I ignored them I kept saying to myself its going to get better and its not.

    I am re rolling to a black mage and right now I am melting peoples faces off.
    Fester: 300 potency
    Bio 2: 350 potency
    Miasma: 320 potency
    Bio: 240 potency
    Thunder: 240 potency

    ???

    It's very high damage over time, especially because pet+ruin is stronger than most other classes spammables. 80+100/120.
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    Rau Quby
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    This, they're REALLY high single target, and AoE is high over time, but no burst AoE.

    That's the only thing they're lacking, and imo, why we have Enkindle.
    High Single target? have you done the math? Because I have. With the 4 dots + Thunder you only hit a total of 255 potency (and that's including 100p from basic attack from your pet). That's 5 spells+pet that have to be casted and kept on the target. Meanwhile BLM have have spells with 200p higher with fire. or Flare. Even a WHM can compete in terms of dmg with their Holy, + Aero II >_>
    Keep in mind that in order for us to hit that 255p we have to cast 5 different spells, and time is dmg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Fester: 300 potency
    Bio 2: 350 potency
    Miasma: 320 potency
    Bio: 240 potency
    Thunder: 240 potency

    ???

    It's very high damage over time, especially because pet+ruin is stronger than most other classes spammables. 80+100/120.
    You forgot in order to hit that Potency they have to run their course, which is between 15-30sec, in that time any decent BLM/MNk can outdmg you :P you will only hit a max of ~260p with all yours dots+pet for every 3sec or so. Although it can be higher if you use both your dmg cd for your pet.
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    Last edited by abesut; 08-30-2013 at 10:42 AM.

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