Warrior Need advice!

[Liger]

Today I tried a lvl 50 dungeon and used a War to tank. It was really a bad experince. War could not hold hate as much as PLd. Should I use gear with more speed skill, Vit or str. Does determination help in keeping hate?


GCD for tank is very long and I needed more skills to keep hate. I used flash from PLD but when I was in the dungeon the skill was not useable. Did anyone try using it in dungeon? Could this be a bug?

[A1istor]

Flash works it just has a short range and doesn't grab a lot of hate... All honesty playing Mrd is about positioning. Using your aoe hate skill consistently enough and fast reactions.

[Liger]

Thank very much for your advice . I figured the problem why it ws not working. I saw so many talking about gld but not much about war. I hope someone would make a good thread about war tanks. I tried but it did not go well .

[Shuon]

is this a problem at higher level? at lower i think mrd tank pretty well especially with regards to aoe tanking

[Shuon]

and also, just a qn since i cant open a thread: is it worth it to use savage blade as a marauder for enmity, since it doesnt require a combo opener like the native mrd swings? this is for situations where you need to quickly rebuild hate

[Furyan]

and also, just a qn since i cant open a thread: is it worth it to use savage blade as a marauder for enmity, since it doesnt require a combo opener like the native mrd swings? this is for situations where you need to quickly rebuild hate

At level 12 you get Overpower. Which does not require a combo and gives increased enmity when used. It is also a conal AoE so it is technically better than savage blade. Also because Savage blade would be cross classed, I would imagine the enmity effect is reduced.

[nscXaoc]

Savage Blade only gives the +emnity when used in combo with Fast Blade. Between Overpower and Flash, you really shouldnt have issues with AoE threat. Just mark a primary target and you should be fine with the rest.

[Liger]

I am just confused to when I should use the +enmity skills. I start the battle using provoke then flash and overpower 2 times then start with a couple of combos and after thant I go back to flash and double overpower. Still I would lose enmity to DDs. I don't know what would be a good rotation. I was doing Aurum Vale and I usually lose enmity to the first boss when I go get the fruits. Any advice?

I was wondering, should the DDs wait for sometime before attacking like give 10-15 sec for tank first then they start attacking?

[Quor]

Part of it could be aggro management on the part of your DD's, yeah. If they're going all out right from the get-go then it can be tough for anyone to take and hold hate.

Your starting rotation seems fine; maybe consider opening with Tomahawk because I think it generates more hate than Provoke (and the hate scales on your weapon damage and with Defiance, so that makes it even better). Lay down 2-3 Overpowers before any CC is thrown out, and then begin Heavy > Sunder > Butcher's Block on your main target. Swap over to Heavy > Maim > Storm's Eye to debuff the target and increase your damage before hitting the main target with a Fracture and going back to Heavy > Sunder > BB.

[Quor]

As long as the DPS focus on your primary target, your 2-3 initial Overpowers should be enough to hold the mobs off of the healer until they get CC'ed. If you have no CC, then after every 3-WS combo, toss in another Overpower. So Heavy > Maim > SE > Overpower, then Heavy > SS > BB > Overpower and so forth. Use Inner Beast and defensive cooldowns as the situation demands.

It can also help to tell your group "Don't engage until I get off the third Overpower" which will help you gain a hate lead. If they have issues with that, and keep pulling hate, let them die. That's the only way a bad DPS will learn. Good DPS not only deals damage, but manages they're own hate as well. Bad DPS goes all out and ends up face-tanking stuff it can't handle.

Oh, and also, try opening with Berserk on your initial combos. The extra damage really goes a long way. When the Pacification debuff comes up, hit Flash twice to bridge the gap, then resume your regular rotation.