thanks for that thread that will be very helpful. It makes a big differnce to have some background ...as tanking can be very stressful if you want to do the right thing but are being overwhelmed with enemies and your party is in danger and your actions dont seem to be making any differnce at all. In time things can turn around and having the right skills makes a huge difference. thanks again. Too bad there is not a Tanking instructor at the Guild HQ to help train us at certain levels.