This is why Hardcore Content SUCKS.

[Amage]

It's absurd. Look at FFXI. parties are DISCRIMINATING based on equipment. Does a casual have a shot at participating in the game's content because the community is going, "LUL, You don't have this particular piece of equipment. GTFO!"

Just stop talking. If you can't think more widely about what kind of implications such things have on how the community ends up behaving towards others, then your opinion isn't really that valuable.

You know why I say that? I'm a moderationist. I believe in finding a "sweet spot" that suits EVERYBODY. Not just one demographic or one ideology. That means compromising. That means understanding what other people's positions are. When other people are unwilling, unbending, and unable to see what others' positions are, they earn my ire, my disgust, and ultimately, if they persist, my hatred.

Not a whole lot different from the idiocy of Congress~

1. Have you been playing FFXI long ?
2. If you want same end Game gear you have 3 options
a. Buy the gear from end game at premium price
b. Join a HNM LS and depending on rules get on a list
c. Kiss your family goodbye and tell your job you quit and start a HNMLS
3. In FFXI did they rarely say you cant join cuz your gear, I have seen ppl build their characters and merit right merits and have less then stellar gear and do dmg before abyssea . Now on FFXI all causal players bitching they broke a good game . Screwed over all the People who got Relics and all the endgame gear with far Superior weapons gear , and not only made people who have worked hard on their gear go in to abyssea and force them to be hardcore causal but after spending 4-6 years completing a relic (If you weren't in a hardcore dynashell = that wasnt just focused on dyna money etc and hnmls didnt fund your relic )Do trial of the Magians which is a big slap in the face to anyone who reached the basic ends and saying here "Make your weapon stronger BUT! it will only be a few steps behind Mystics and other AFv3

[SilvertearRen]

1. Have you been playing FFXI long ?
2. If you want same end Game gear you have 3 options
a. Buy the gear from end game at premium price
b. Join a HNM LS and depending on rules get on a list
c. Kiss your family goodbye and tell your job you quit and start a HNMLS
3. In FFXI did they rarely say you cant join cuz your gear, I have seen ppl build their characters and merit right merits and have less then stellar gear and do dmg before abyssea . Now on FFXI all causal players bitching they broke a good game . Screwed over all the People who got Relics and all the endgame gear with far Superior weapons gear , and not only made people who have worked hard on their gear go in to abyssea and force them to be hardcore causal but after spending 4-6 years completing a relic (If you weren't in a hardcore dynashell = that wasnt just focused on dyna money etc and hnmls didnt fund your relic )Do trial of the Magians which is a big slap in the face to anyone who reached the basic ends and saying here "Make your weapon stronger BUT! it will only be a few steps behind Mystics and other AFv3

You're obviously anti-casual. Your opinions are noted, but filed away under "irrelevant". Thank you for your time.

[Amage]

your trying to be smart and wity but the obvious is that if this game wants to succeed it need to be Hardcore

[SilvertearRen]

your trying to be smart and wity but the obvious is that if this game wants to succeed it need to be Hardcore

I'm not gonna even argue with a closed-minded person like you. You clearly are incapable of considering other people's perspectives. Goodbye.

[Scrag]

I only had a few hours of time yesterday to budget for FFXIV. And all of it was burned on the Kokoroon NM. Granted, I missed out because it was a new NM, and that everybody was camping for it, but that doesn't make the stress, frustration, and aggravation go away.

I play FFXIV to have fun, not to compete with people who talk smack and heckle other parties camping the NM. That was just unnecessary stress...

Lol? If you think you would be the only person out there camping the NM on opening night in NA prime time.. then maybe this game is too 'hardcore' for you. (And it's not, WoW was harder than this) :P Silver, c'mon.. The NM pops every couple minutes. If you're not getting claims you should set up a targeting macro or something of that sort. This system is basically the complete opposite of FFXI. There aren't any placeholders, no massive waiting times. This is in no way hardcore content at all. This game is designed for people like you who don't have much time to play. You might not get everything you want right away like some of the more 'hardcore' players would, but that's the case in every MMORPG. That's how it should be, if you want to put forth the time and effort than you should be rewarded for doing so. Like I said last night, if you just wait a day or two everyone who would have wanted it will have attained the drops. Then you can go kill your NM over and over again until you are satisfied. In short time, these NM's are just going to be wandering around not being attacked until PS3 release. 8)

[Lerris]

I'm sorry, but he has a very fair point. The people that are willing to sit and spend hours, or in FFXI terms, DAYS, camping for a single item should have better gear than the casuals.

No, I think they deserve to get it sooner... Just like what happened last night. They worked for it hardcore-like.

So a casual player, who plays a couple times a week for 2-3 hours deserves an Adaberk before a hardcore player who end games every day? Get real.

Aistaraina, did you even read SilverTearRen's response to you?

[Dubont]

OP is a crybaby that doesn't like competition. Nuff said.

[User201106281130]

there is no such thing as "end-game casual"

[Dubont]

there is no such thing as "end-game casual"

sky + dynamis?

[Amage]

Its not that im close minded I'm Clearly saying you can get R/Ex items that are few steps behind but will not be as good as hardcore it can be just as good but not better or even

If Causals dont want to grind and camp they should have Pop NMs where they quest for pop items and hard core can get the better gear by effort