Institute Temporary AFK Kick Timer

[Sebazy]

The thing that really disgusts me is that I share a server with some of you people.

And the thing that really disgusts me is that so many people can be so horridly misguided over this. Yes the 1017 caper is massively frustrating particularly for NA players who catch the tail end of EU peak playtimes, but booting AFKers isn't going to change a thing.

Go download something like Quakeworld, setup your own server, have a bunch of clients sit idle and watch the servers CPU usage, now get them all running around, firing at each other and interacting with the level. You'll quite literally see a tenfold increase in CPU usage on the server. Not to mention that idle players are not even impacting on the portion of SE's infrastructure that is actually the root of all this whole problem.

A good portion of the FFXIV "community" is really showing it's lack of insight over this situation.

[Tater1001]

A good portion of the FFXIV "community" is really showing it's lack of insight over this situation.

That is the typical Programmer/dev to Customer relationship. The customer complains about the problem and thinks they know how to fix it without even remotely having a working knowledge of the issue or even knowing the sheer complexity of programming and computer software/hardware, thus "The customer is always wrong and is usually a jerk about it." still justifiably angry though. Square-enix launched the game without properly preparing for it and these are the consequences.

[Discordia]

Go download something like Quakeworld, setup your own server, have a bunch of clients sit idle and watch the servers CPU usage, now get them all running around, firing at each other and interacting with the level. You'll quite literally see a tenfold increase in CPU usage on the server. Not to mention that idle players are not even impacting on the portion of SE's infrastructure that is actually the root of all this whole problem.

A good portion of the FFXIV "community" is really showing it's lack of insight over this situation.

You're a true idiot if you think that's the problem. The problem is a fixed set of "seats". AFK players take up those seats that could've been used by someone with more activity. This is a game to be played, not a game to sit in idly. The f*ck is wrong with people's reading comprehension.

[Sebazy]

I beg to differ, I've got experience running various game servers going right back to NetQuake and even a couple of mildly popular emulated UO servers (Which was massively inefficient and resource heavy in it's day). The problem is actually that the fixed number of seats are calculated by a theoretical CPU usage across a given player base. You remember the first couple of days of early access where SE gradually ramped up the servers until they crashed? They weren't out to torture the playerbase, they were simply working out what the servers could handle and simply dialling it back a little from the point where their infrastructure got swamped. Both idle and active players would have been factored in by this process. Please remember that this isn't an FPS server where it's assumed that every player is going to be active.

Lets not forget though, the truest mark of an idiot is someone who brings little more than slander and insults to the debating table. Over to you!

[KienanVates]

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You're missing the WHOLE point... If the server issues did not exist, would you care about those that AFK? The only reason people are complaining about AFKers is because the servers can't support the load. If no one AFK'd there is NO guarantee that the most vocal people here would have had any more success getting in than they do now.

There are multiple issues here, but this rage at AFKers as if they are the ones causing server congestion is idiotic. The server congestion is caused by a lack of infrastructure... NOT caused by those who found a less than pleasant for everyone work around.

You're attacking me on a personal level... And I'm just laughing. Logic and common sense are superpowers nowadays... Too many emotional knee jerk reactions.

[QueenK]

You're wasting your breath on raged people looking to blame somebody, and maybe they should be blaming someone... like SE, for not having the servers capable of holding it's player base.

This all just goes to show how stupid humans get when they form an angry mob against things they don't understand.

[AamesxDavid]

Spin it all you want. Say "no! It's SE forcing us to do this!" all you want. Rationalize and justify it to yourself 'til you're blue in the face. But at the end of the day, you're nothing but a liar. You know it, and so does everyone else.

Funny, I haven't seen one person say that they're being forced. Your strawman is showing.

And not one of you complainers has the first clue about how big a problem this really is. You have a few anecdotes about seeing people not moving for a while. And those are the people you blame. Not the people responsible for the servers, and the obvious lack of preparation that went into this launch. No, you blame the people who are simply logged into the game that they paid for - even if they aren't actively playing at that moment.

You go on about community, and then instantly point the finger at your fellow player when you feel like they are taking up your rightful spot on the server.

[AamesxDavid]

No. This is a ridiculous knee-jerk reaction to one cause of the current server congestion. Take into consideration that the only reason people are doing this in the first place is because of server congestion. So how exactly is this supposed to fix the very thing that caused it in the first place?

People already can't buy the game, and if they have it, can't make new characters. Neither of those issues will be solved by this either. FFXI has been running how long now without this feature?

More servers, better servers, etc. No wasting time and engineering effort on temporary measures that only go a tiny bit toward solving a symptom of the real problem.

[Femgame]

Solution: Everyone run out get Win 8, install Win 8. Log into game, have FFXIV:ARR and Win 8 duke it out. PC crash. It's a win win really :P Also for those who may ask; I'm a win 8 user who crashes while playing.