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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    What I mean by "real game" is what games always have been and always should be.
    Then, Final Fantasy XIV will just like any other game on the market. It's its crafting system make FFXIV unique from other games.
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    Last edited by Norwan; 04-16-2011 at 11:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    Then, Final Fantasy XIV is just like any other game on the market. It's its crafting system make FFXIV unique from other games.
    there many things that make it unique, but also keep in mind that unique isn't always good.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    there many things that make it unique, but also keep in mind that unique isn't always good.
    Being a bandwagoner (Rift) isnt always good either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Being a bandwagoner (Rift) isnt always good either.
    I don't like Rift either. It's on my list of games to never play again.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    There needs to be a way to get gear that doesn't involve trading with players because we all know the crafting elite can end up being those greedy high price setting people.

    Also, while SE does want DoW/M DoH and DoL to work together, this game was never supposed to be some sort of economic experiment that has player made gear ONLY -.-
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    "Us heroes, we have so much to do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowstriker View Post
    There needs to be a way to get gear that doesn't involve trading with players because we all know the crafting elite can end up being those greedy high price setting people.

    Also, while SE does want DoW/M DoH and DoL to work together, this game was never supposed to be some sort of economic experiment that has player made gear ONLY -.-
    I give stuff away on the constant. you should move to Karnak ^^
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    I'd have to agree with the OP somewhat, I'm not really a crafter as such, I only have my crafts to fix my own gear, however SE originally planned for crafting classes to be full classes and not a side-class like FF11's crafting system.

    What they have done here has basically lessened the money or viability of crafting within the 25-35 rank range, obviously not everyone is going to go farm NM's for hours to get untradable gear but many will, and not only that they will hold on to this gear and reuse it again, its even impacted further by the fact that no gear is restricted by level so players can use this gear from rank 1 if they so wish to.

    IMO the devs would have been better of making this gear craftable and had the NM's drop key components similar to the previous NM's, I doubt so many people would have been complaining about respawn timers either if all they dropped were material items.

    Edit:- also lets not forget that these NM's drop ridiculous amount of other "craftable" loot which is just adding salt to the wound, sure many of the tradeable items they drop are pretty common but its just flooding an economy that is already saturated, pretty stupid move there SE.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 04-16-2011 at 11:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    I'd have to agree with the OP somewhat, I'm not really a crafter as such, I only have my crafts to fix my own gear, however SE originally planned for crafting classes to be full classes and not a side-class like FF11's crafting system.

    What they have done here has basically lessened the money or viability of crafting within the 25-35 rank range, obviously not everyone is going to go farm NM's for hours to get untradable gear but many will, and not only that they will hold on to this gear and reuse it again, its even impacted further by the fact that no gear is restricted by level so players can use this gear from rank 1 if they so wish to.

    IMO the devs would have been better of making this gear craftable and had the NM's drop key components similar to the previous NM's, I doubt so many people would have been complaining about respawn timers either if all they dropped were material items.

    Edit:- also lets not forget that these NM's drop ridiculous amount of other "craftable" loot which is just adding salt to the wound, sure many of the tradeable items they drop are pretty common but its just flooding an economy that is already saturated, pretty stupid move there SE.
    I dont see people doing too much 'reusing' of the weapons. for example, only gladiator can use flametounge. It is R35. as soon as the next sword comes along (R39) Flametounge gets vendored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    I dont see people doing too much 'reusing' of the weapons. for example, only gladiator can use flametounge. It is R35. as soon as the next sword comes along (R39) Flametounge gets vendored.
    I was more referring to the armour than the weapons.
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    not a big deal, they just another choices but doesn't mean they won't release any new recipes in the future
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