Seriously 3-5 minute repop on NMs?

[Besbeset]

I want to a pretty unique snowflake with gear no one else can get so i can show it off in ul'dah and have newbies say "OH MAI GAWD WHERE DID YOU GET THAT!?"

Well, I have to say that this is one of the things that people loves (including myself) about this kind of games (MMOs)
I was always jealous when I saw other people running on Jeuno with those really nice and cool armor/weapons, and therefore I know that the effort to obtain those items was BIG.

This can give you an idea about how big and challenging the game is, and that's something that plenty of players like it.
The feeling that you have played the game, leveled up a job, a craft, and there is still a full plenty of things to achieve, some of those really epic....... that feeling is one of the things I really loved on FFXI and any other MMOs.

I'm not against (and I will never be) to allow not so hardcore players to get good/great armor and weapons in game. Of course there must be a chance for everyone and the game should try to fit his content to any kind of players. But we could have both, we have not to choose just one. There could be equipment for more casual players with less time to play the game, and equipment for the hardcore ones.

Why? I would say why not.

Even if I'm not able, for any reasons (job, family) to get the coolest/better equipment or armors in game I will be happy for those other players that manage to do it. And I feel that this contributes to the greatness and uniqueness of a game.

Sorry for any grammatical errors.

[Abauge_Goga]

I played FFXI and camped NM's for hours on end, and sometimes for no rewards. I did enjoy it though because i was in college, i wasn't married and had a lot of time to play. Now I am married, I have kids, a full time job and not so much time to play anymore.
I like the fact that SE introduced new NM's that repop fast. They don't always drop the item right away, but it is much faster than the FFXI NM's used to that's for sure.
Why do I like it? Because it is tailored to my life style at the moment. I love this game and i hope SE keeps introducing content for people like me.
On the other hand though, there are people that need and can play this game much longer than me and i absolutelly think SE should introduce other NM's that are similar to the FFXI style. (20 people killing a dragon for example).

I think SE will fix things with FFXIV and both sides of this argument will be satisfied. If they would have introduced a couple NM's that had a repop time of 2 days let's say, people would have still complained that the repop time is not fast enough and you would have had line-ups again, and people would have reacted disrespectfully towards one another just for a drop.

I think SE is doing the right thing and I think they will introduce content to please people that have more time on their hands. There is nothing wrong with playing 10 hrs a day if you can or playing 2 hrs a day. Been there done that

[Carmillia]

We all need challenging content, casuals or hardcore but time sinks are just lame and boring in the long run... There are other ways of implementing challenging content than time sink features.
What I don't get is even SE is confusing casual with easy mode. I mean, they could just have left the rank50 NM as before the 8-men party or even make them a bit harder even as some of them could already been soloed by the appropriate jobs.

[Moiren]

I love challenging fights, not changelling claims. So I'm very happy they put these NMs with just few minutes (sometimes seconds) repop time. Camping gets boring after a while.

Want good equips that require a lot of time? There is no need to put nm/hnm with long respawn time. Solution: use content like Salvage/nyzul/einherjar/istanced HNMs -> challenging fights, long time required, equips to be proud of.

[Nuru]

Its funny because the OP wants to spend more than 24 hours waiting on NM spawn just to get a weapon you will only use one time around. Not like there is another class that is allowed to use that same weapon. :P This isn't FFXI where you save your Special weapons for the next job to use.

[Drex]

I love challenging fights, not changelling claims. So I'm very happy they put these NMs with just few minutes (sometimes seconds) repop time. Camping gets boring after a while.

Want good equips that require a lot of time? There is no need to put nm/hnm with long respawn time. Solution: use content like Salvage/nyzul/einherjar/istanced HNMs -> challenging fights, long time required, equips to be proud of.

true, but a game like FF can have all this things plus a couple of HNMs with a "boring" respawn time....

with a system like that you can have everything you want in a single game...since there are someone who likes that too

in FFXI, when i stopped play, you could get K.club from Lord or from the BCNM.... all happy.... easy

thats the future of the MMOs.....

[Moiren]

true, but a game like FF can have all this things plus a couple of HNMs with a "boring" respawn time....

I'm ok for FFXIV having more kinds of things, tho I have to disagree on this. Not everyone can camp or wanna have an LS to camp those HNMs (due to high respawn time), plus there are bots that ruin other linkshell's game experience.

To quote Carmillia, the important thing is not to confuse casual with easy mode.

Add more salvage/nyzul/einherjar-like content and that's fine for everyone that wanna enjoy endgame without have to run everyday to camp a HNM.

[Nuru]

in FFXI, when i stopped play, you could get K.club from Lord or from the BCNM.... all happy.... easy

thats the future of the MMOs.....

Like i said in my previous post. You will only get to use K.Club until the next weapon comes around. Then that's it. You'll never ever have to use that weapon again. That's how this works. That's why it works the way it does.

[Verecund]

This shit thread was seriously resurrected to dispute what a "timesink" is?

[Drex]

Like i said in my previous post. You will only get to use K.Club until the next weapon comes around. Then that's it. You'll never ever have to use that weapon again. That's how this works. That's why it works the way it does.

All MMO are like that... when they game grows, when we get update-patches-more lv-new areas and mobs, your target goes on stronger stuff...its physiological

And i can tell you that FFXI was sure a game where the equip-life was much more longer than other games, also because the incredibly effort needed to get some stuff