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    Will classes still exist in 2.0?

    Just a question I've had, and haven't seen much in 2.0 notes myself on it. I could have missed a direct answer for this, and for that I apologize for this thread if so.

    I personally question, although many dont agree, that classes such as gladiator, marauder, lancer, ect will still exist at 2.0. I believe they might just be replaced with the new jobs. For example there is no longer a gladiator, only paladin.

    My reason for thinking such is a likely out come stems from three reasons.

    1) 2.0 seems to be set after a great event that unfolds and more or less shapes the world in many ways. We are currently experiencing the older ways before this event. So for example, we are seeing now how our new classes were before the new game sets in. Paladin originated from Gladiator for example...and how has a history of evolution.

    2) The reason I even stretched that theory above out to fit was because from what I've seen, many players want FF names...like white mage and black mage. This although some disagree...is something I've seen since before beta and continue to see now. To me replacing the classes with these jobs wouldnt be at all surprising, for it seems the demand more or less requests it happens.

    3) It seems so far with very rare exception, classes are now useless compared to their job counterparts. Yes "jobs" help the classes fit into roles, but its not like a gladiator can or will ever DD in a party to begin with. You can argue solo'ing and that is true, but theres no endgame in which you can solo...and with easily becoming 50 in a week...thats the most important part of the game thus far.

    Tell me what you think.
    Keep in mind this is not my hopes for the game. I'm not saying I hope classes are replaced by their new jobs or that I don't hope it happens...I'm just suggesting what I personally think might happen when 2.0 is released or some time after.
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    Yes. Jesus. Classes aren't going anywhere. Jobs and classes are going to be further differentiated as more abilities, equipment, etc. are added well into 2.0.

    Want an elaborate reason as to why? Too bad, I ain't got one, and if I had one I still wouldn't need to give it out. The fact is that if classes were going the way of the dodo, then they would have been offed months ago by Matsui and the rest of the battle design team. He's quick to get rid of things that don't suit the overall vision of the game like active combat, so it's not like he's shown arbitrary preference for them.

    Sorry for the tone, I'm just still feeling vitriolic over the announcement of an Elder Scrolls MMO.
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    I don't see why people have so much problems with classes. Classes keep dumb things like "PLD using a staff instead of sword & shield" from happening, and if Fencer => Red Mage becomes reality, my favorite job is safe from that too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Malakhim View Post
    Sorry for the tone, I'm just still feeling vitriolic over the announcement of an Elder Scrolls MMO.
    So it's official, huh? That's so gonna fall flat on its face it won't be even funny.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    So it's official, huh? That's so gonna fall flat on its face it won't be even funny.
    Totally off-topic, but while I don't actively wish for games to flat out fail, I can't help but think that making an actual MMO out of a game whose sole strength was being a single-player game with an MMO scale would take away greatly from what makes it so awesome to people. Not me though. I'm not a huge fan of western games anyway.
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    I think we'll see more uses for classes when pvp is released.
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    I didn't see all the class threads when I made this I promise <.<...when I went back to general...lol. Although its still a different topic in a way. I want to know if they'll exist, period...not peoples opinion if they should or not, or at least if others believe its likely it could or could not happen.

    Also I remember him mentioning new classes. However what I dont recall is him mentioning new jobs for those said classes. If jobs replace classes, then it doesnt prove anything about the old classes remaining as they are or being replaced. Again I havent seen anything to suggest the old classes are staying and the jobs for them. All I see anymore is about the jobs...and new classes (without mentioning jobs).
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    I don't think they are starting to bring class only equipment if they are planning to remove the classes in 6 month.
    Also, not every class has a job. Remove all classes and you would only have DoW and DoM.
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    That is true, I can see the use for PVP with multiple skills cross class. However that being said, is PvP enough reason to keep both classes and jobs? I'm a huge PvP fan dont get me wrong, I just cant see the developers justifying that or the community allowing such.
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    also.... ~_~ Yoshi already have planned for release of new classes after 2.0 comes out.
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    Holy crap, lets see how many threads can be made about the same thing in 1day. GO!
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