Setting Cure on PLD

[Xaelis]

I mainly use it for soloing, since in party I hardly get the chance/need to use cure - except a boss fight with phase shift etc where I may throw cure on myself. What I did find enjoyable was throwing a heal while soloing / exploring on lower levels if I notice it :3

[Dreamslave]

I thought the PLD only received cross class skills from Marauder and Conjurer?

[Karti]

I thought the PLD only received cross class skills from Marauder and Conjurer?

Pretty much, from what I've seen at least.

[Dreamslave]

Pretty much, from what I've seen at least.

Yea, thats what I thought. But some of these people are saying they get pugilist and lancer cooldowns....what the heck.

[Karti]

Yea, thats what I thought. But some of these people are saying they get pugilist and lancer cooldowns....what the heck.

Eh, maybe they're talking about when they are Gladiators. I used to (and still miss it) have Haymaker on my hotbar. But now all I can add is Cure, Protect, and Raise.

[rzr22]

Do GLD/PLD start using more MP? I've checked PLD abilities and none seem to use MP. Why give us a whole MP bar when we only use it on the seldom used Flash? I feel like with a competent healer, there's no point in Curing myself. I can generate more threat through the combo.

[Rajah]

Now you're going to call me out here. ~20 slots of material is a long way from a fully VIT capped PLD, and you would be correct. But you're wrong, when I say, that a missing 30 VIT (the skill points) is going to make a large difference, not when I have 80 points of MND OR VIT at any given moment.

I am putting all of my skill points into MND. To put it simply, 1 cure can make the difference in battle. For VIT to make a difference, 1 Cure already has.

[Baelrov]

Now you're going to call me out here. ~20 slots of material is a long way from a fully VIT capped PLD, and you would be correct. But you're wrong, when I say, that a missing 30 VIT (the skill points) is going to make a large difference, not when I have 80 points of MND OR VIT at any given moment.

I am putting all of my skill points into MND. To put it simply, 1 cure can make the difference in battle. For VIT to make a difference, 1 Cure already has.

I'm sorry to seem rude, but that is such a silly argument. VIT has such a higher return than MND does for a Paladin. That being said, those 30 points probably won't make or break you but I'd rather have an extra ~500 health than the extra MND. Putting those 30 points into MND is very foolish. It's on a par with casters using those points for STR.

[Rajah]

No, he's right, we have little MP. That said, even Flash won't consume all of it alone.

I've personally grown attached to the idea of supplementing capped stats with MND.

DEX is overgrown by block rate.
STR is overgrown by shield protection, spirits within, and shield oath.

VIT is the only contender, providing a little more health for slightly more survivability.

But more survivability than a PLD equipped for Cure? I think not. It is not difficult to gear for cure, simply using meldable gear alone is going to provide upwards of 80 MND, if you take it seriously. Criticals and convalescence can be rewarding, you just need to realize IT IS situational, it is not designed for more than 1 or 2 quick cures at any given moment. I like having shield bash handy for interruptions, I prefer to always have used convalescence, hinting at the real situational effort of this troupe.

[Fyreus]

No, he's right, we have little MP. That said, even Flash won't consume all of it alone.

I've personally grown attached to the idea of supplementing capped stats with MND.

DEX is overgrown by block rate.
STR is overgrown by shield protection, spirits within, and shield oath.

VIT is the only contender, providing a little more health for slightly more survivability.

But more survivability than a PLD equipped for Cure? I think not. It is not difficult to gear for cure, simply using meldable gear alone is going to provide upwards of 80 MND, if you take it seriously. Criticals and convalescence can be rewarding, you just need to realize IT IS situational, it is not designed for more than 1 or 2 quick cures at any given moment. I like having shield bash handy for interruptions, I prefer to always have used convalescence, hinting at the real situational effort of this troupe.

I was thinking about this a while ago and i wondered if adding additional det is the better way to go and if there's some way to tell how much more hp you'd get per point of det than mnd at lv50. If it's the same, then adding the two stats in places where i can spare wouldn't be a bad thing especially when nearing stat caps.