Dragoons Cannot Roll On Scale Armor?

[Cainan]

So I was doing a dungeon today and I noticed whenever scale armor would drop (armor type below heavy tank gear and above leather, pretty much for dragoons and lancers) and even though it says LNC and DRG as useable, and it's basically Dragoon's armor type, it would only only me greed. So of course the tank would need and win. Then of course plate armor in the same slots would drop and he would then win those too.

Is there a particular reason why DRGs can't roll on scale armor? I could understand if it was the heaviest type of armor and maybe SE wanted tanks to get their tank gear more easily, but it's not even the best tank gear. It has lower armor than plate and is all dps stats. This frustrating cause it means we have to roll on leather, which while fine for dpsing, the armor is nicer to have when soloing. Plus it means we take armor away from Monks and Bards. Seems pretty silly to me.

[Drachnyen]

I had the exact same earlier, I remember it saying that it was unsuitable to my class but clearly had "LNC DRG" there and was perfect stats for a Lancer/Dragoon. Needless to say the tank ended up with it

[BlackShroudMercs]

There was a thread on this I read earlier, I think people said it is because it only can be needed by the class that has optimal use for it, in other words yeah you can wear it but the tank would probably benefit more so you can only greed.
That's just what I gathered from the conversation, as a DPS you would probably wear it for a shorter time because you upgrade a lot for better damage stats and what not.

Not saying I agree with that, I think if it has LNC on it we should be allowed to need, but there you go..

[Leonas]

There was a thread on this I read earlier, I think people said it is because it only can be needed by the class that has optimal use for it, in other words yeah you can wear it but the tank would probably benefit more so you can only greed.
That's just what I gathered from the conversation, as a DPS you would probably wear it for a shorter time because you upgrade a lot for better damage stats and what not.

Not saying I agree with that, I think if it has LNC on it we should be allowed to need, but there you go..

No. This gear has stats geared towards damage. Not parry, etc. LNC/DRG is SUPPOSED to be able to wear scale, but apparently no one told the loot system that.

[Dervy]

No. This gear has stats geared towards damage. Not parry, etc. LNC/DRG is SUPPOSED to be able to wear scale, but apparently no one told the loot system that.

If it had Crit Rating an Determination, then DRG/LNC gets priority. If it doesn't, then Tank gets Priority.

[Suldrun]

If it had Crit Rating an Determination, then DRG/LNC gets priority. If it doesn't, then Tank gets Priority.

I have real doubts with this. Based on what you say, for every item a tank can use (such as leather stuff marked as "Disciples of War"), the tank would get priority...

[Zenmaku]

If it had Crit Rating an Determination, then DRG/LNC gets priority. If it doesn't, then Tank gets Priority.

No, its appalling that a fellow lancer would say such a thing.

Plate offers far better Defense than Scale. Tanks should always be wearing gear with higher Defense. Even if the drop in a dungeon is Scale and happens to be better than their plate because their plate is out of date, that just means they need to update their plate mail _not_ roll on scale.

[Dervy]

I have real doubts with this. Based on what you say, for every item a tank can use (such as leather stuff marked as "Disciples of War"), the tank would get priority...

It's Disciple of War isn't it? Don't WAR and PLD fit into DoW roles? So why wouldn't they be able to roll onto that gear?

No, its appalling that a fellow lancer would say such a thing.

Plate offers far better Defense than Scale. Tanks should always be wearing gear with higher Defense. Even if the drop in a dungeon is Scale and happens to be better than their plate because their plate is out of date, that just means they need to update their plate mail _not_ roll on scale.

It's not "appalling from a fellow Lancer". It's a game mechanic that I explained to you, not my personal opinion.

If you want your baddass Scale Gear, look up "Darksteel" it's LNC/DRG specific Scale Gear with Crit and sockets. It's crafting gear. That's what you'd want I suppose.

Also, you don't need all of that Defence in a dungeon, unless you're going to be careless about your positioning that is.

[fruhead]

I've been noticing that too. My bigger question is, does DEX do anything for a LNC/DRG, as the scale type armours don't have it. I know DEX deals with ranged physical damage, and I'm wondering if DEX affects the jumps or Piercing Talon. If so, then it would make sense why leather is needed more than scale.

[Kauld]

I have had a similar thing happen on my Marauder with plate that clearly said MRD on it. I wasn't able to need roll on it . So I doubt its just Dragoons but a loot bug in general.