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    Abriael Rosen
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    Gladiator Lv 100

    [Suggestion] Longer/extensible action bars and saving bars by class

    In my opinion at the moment the current Action Bar implementation is really too limiting. 10 slots are way under what's needed to store someone's actions, especially in a game in which one can hybridize classes and use actions from all of them at the same time. Having to scroll between multiple bars is, as well, quite inconvenient and unconfortable.

    I would suggest either implementing longer action bars by default (with 20 slots), or make the action bars extensible (from 10 to 20 slots). There's no need for the slots from 11 to 20 to have a hotkey, as they can easily remain mouse/joypad activated.

    I would also implement a hotkey to switch between different bars without having to use the mouse.

    Finally, I would plea for the implementation of a system to allow us to save our action bars for each class. I'd really like to have the game save, for instance, my action bar setup for my gladiator, my conjurer and so forth, and then automatically switch between them when i change class.
    It would make the armory system much more streamlined and enjoyable, as now, unless one goes through the complex and long process of making a macro (and keeping it updated), changing classes is quite a pain, having to reset all the actions on the bars.

    I would also do the same for crafting traits and guild marks abilities. since it's very easy to forget to reset them every time one changes class, especially when switching to a lower level class, that removes them from their slots when they are over the limit.


    note to the moderators: I erroneously posted this on the general section on the forum as well, unfortunately the forum structure is a bit confusing and suggests that this is the forum for the feedback on the site/forum only, while reaing the sticky posts I realized that this is for suggestions in general on the game as well. Sorry for the mistake. Feel free to merge/move/delete the threads as necessary appropriate. Thank you.
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    Alice Siuloir
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    Yes yes and more yes. I would also suggest that all cross-class abilities learned also show up in your equipable actions menu - even if you aren't currently that class. If I'm able to use them, I should be able to set them (edit for idiocy, b/c you can do this - but it's still not clear in the menu which are cross-class abilities and which are unique to class). This would also be necessary for your suggestion of saving action bars by class, I think - which I am in love with.
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    Last edited by glassalice; 08-20-2011 at 05:07 AM.
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    Frein Mannis
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    There definitely would have to be hotkeys for the 11-20 slots. I don't touch the mouse when I play because of the fixed button placements and how jerky the camera is when mouse controlled, so everything needs to work from the keyboard.

    I really cannot fathom why the current bars have fixed hotkeys, or why anything has fixed hotkeys. Nobody worth their salt binds their abilities to numbers past 6 in MMOs where you can freely bind your keys because you can't reach them without moving your left hand.
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    Lexalon Kai
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    I wouldn't mind all three action bars visible the entire time,.
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    Risa Cooper
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    .. I dont use my mouse at all when fighting though I switch through the action bars just fine. Once you get use to it its rather easy. Only thing i would fix is when the action bar gets stuck and you have to click off the mob before you can switch between bars. Use your arrow keys to switch between the bars And the saving per class thing would make my life soooo much easier lol. Wouldn't have to macro all those actions for my pug xD
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    Leet Ne
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisaCooper View Post
    And the saving per class thing would make my life soooo much easier lol. Wouldn't have to macro all those actions for my pug xD
    Not to mention the macros are a bit slow when switching. Sometimes, (I don't know if lag does this,) but I find my macros don't equip my shield or finish all my /eactions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldeen View Post
    Not to mention the macros are a bit slow when switching. Sometimes, (I don't know if lag does this,) but I find my macros don't equip my shield or finish all my /eactions.
    Thats never happened to me actually unless ive spelled something wrong : o
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    Eyrenn Mistbreaker
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    Don't you just use macros to save "action bars" for each class?

    I have multiple macros even for the same class, depending upon whether I am tanking or DPS role.

    I usually play either MRD or PUG, but sometimes I switch to LNC with backup buffs, and I just hit a single macro button and all my actions and traits are set, takes about 30 sec for the game to run through the list and add them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanderingseed View Post
    Don't you just use macros to save "action bars" for each class?

    I have multiple macros even for the same class, depending upon whether I am tanking or DPS role.

    I usually play either MRD or PUG, but sometimes I switch to LNC with backup buffs, and I just hit a single macro button and all my actions and traits are set, takes about 30 sec for the game to run through the list and add them all.
    Yeah I do, though it takes up 3-4 macro spaces, for just equipping actions and those are just my standard actions lol probably if i wanted to switch from tanking to dpsing id need another 2-3 macros just for that. Its really cumbersome and eventually ill run out of macro spaces >.<
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    How exactly do you set up macros to save action bars?
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