Thread: Patch 1.17 Notes

Originally Posted by Kazimir

This is SE. They aren't going to make something harder after reducing a group size. Give me a break.

And where is your basis for this assumption? Oh right, there isn't one.

Originally Posted by Arcell

And where is your basis for this assumption? Oh right, there isn't one.

My basis is they do stupid crap all the time. Adjusting strength of NM's to coincide with a party reduction screams weakening of NM's.

Originally Posted by Kazimir

My basis is they do stupid crap all the time. Adjusting strength of NM's to coincide with a party reduction screams weakening of NM's.

Stupid crap is a pretty relative term and still offers no basis to your argument.

Originally Posted by Arcell

Stupid crap is a pretty relative term and still offers no basis to your argument.

If you want to be an idiot about it go ahead.

The strength of several notorious monsters has been adjusted to coincide with this.

It's pretty obvious they are weakening the NM's.

Originally Posted by Kazimir

If you want to be an idiot about it go ahead.

It's pretty obvious they are weakening the NM's.

This still offers no basis to your argument, please try again.

Balancing content with certain values in mind tends to tailor it to those values.

Now it's your turn to provide an actual argument in opposition to mine instead of insults.

Originally Posted by Arcell

This still offers no basis to your argument, please try again.

Balancing content with certain values in mind tends to tailor it to those values.

Now it's your turn to provide an actual argument in opposition to mine instead of insults.

That's okay. I'll wait for the content to speak for itself.

Originally Posted by Kazimir

That's okay. I'll wait for the content to speak for itself.

Aww running out of steam before any real fun began.

On-topic though, I think this is a pretty substantial update that shows us a bit of where the game is going. If you don't like it, I suggest you stop wasting your time and move on.

Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

but they are giving you a big buff in 4-8 member parties. Which can also point to them making the NMs more powerful.

10% HP, MP, and accuracy buffs compared to an unbuffed 15 man party?

Having nearly twice the amount of party members is effectively increasing your battle effectiveness by almost 100%.

Originally Posted by Rentahamster

10% HP, MP, and accuracy buffs compared to an unbuffed 15 man party?

Having nearly twice the amount of party members is effectively increasing your battle effectiveness by almost 100%.

Actually even more.