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    BIG~ mistake SE. Mighty big. (Materials Usage License)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    No I honestly don't care about your bitch fest. Here's a little reminder about something. When you first installed this game YOU agreed to said TOS when you clicked on that small little box and checked off "I Agree". They said no and now you're whining because you can't make money off of said videos... Cry me a river build me a bridge and then get the fuck over yourself. Your little five year old tantrum will not make them change their minds.
    You know what. I'm sorry. I'm obviously catching you, and the rest of the forums at a bad time. It must be, because I cannot believe or understand otherwise the hostile reaction by you and most other replies to this post.

    Again, this isn't about me. A lot of people seem to have knee-jerk replies here without fully reading and taking a moment to understand my concern. It's not a thread bitching, or at least it wasn't intended to. It was to raise a serious question as to why YouTube content creators are specifically being targeted in this situation.

    I think though after having been thrashed by the mob here, I think I don't really care anymore anyway.

    *Original post below*

    I was looking forward to seeing other YouTubers doing the same....but then I read this today....


    (Materials Usage License) Posted Aug, 27th


    "Guidelines for Videos

    You may not monetize your video via the YouTube partner program or any similar programs on other video sharing sites."


    Well....way to shoot yourself in the foot SE. You could have for weeks and now beyond launch, tons of video makers promoting your game and helping to bring FFXIV:ARR. But instead you have a NDA that lasts till launch AND want to deny video makers monetization on videos for game footage of FFXIV:ARR?

    continued below...
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    Now I know what you're thinking "Oh this person just wants to make money on YouTube" NO! It's not even that!

    I LOVE Final Fantasy XIV: ARR. My concern is how this, probably half the content that could have been made from creative video makers will now never exist because of this! And all the great free promotion that could have been made by YouTubers, that could help spread the word about how awesome ARR is with lengthy gameplay series, walkthroughs, tutorials, ect. now will hardly exist.

    It's the 21st century! Are you so blind to how YouTube helps promote games in a MASSIVE way!? Minecraft is a great example of how letting creative movie makers run free can make amazing video content, make a little money on the side (which you don't have to pay for SE) and spread awareness and promote a game!

    I will still make videos, but this isn't about me. It's about YOU SE and how it's the little things...the tiny little things you do are bigger than you know.
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    they cant even handle the amount of players they already have why would they want more?
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    Draven, SE didn't say you can't upload videos - they're saying you can't make money on it. This is why people don't really appreciate or respect that community anymore since it's become purely about money.

    So if you want to promote the game, you can, you just won't be making money on it. If you truly wanted to promote ARR do it outside of monetization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Draven, SE didn't say you can't upload videos - they're saying you can't make money on it. This is why people don't really appreciate or respect that community anymore since it's become purely about money.

    So if you want to promote the game, you can, you just won't be making money on it. If you truly wanted to promote ARR do it outside of monetization.
    Did I say people can't make videos? No. I quoted exactly what the issue is.

    Regardless of your opinion about the YouTube video making community, the point is, ARR will not get nearly the coverage it could have gotten because of this policy in regards to monetization on YouTube. SE isn't in the business of charity and neither are most big YouTubers.

    Like I said, it's free promotion that SE doesn't have to pay for, why deny them monetization? They aren't paying for any of it? But they will in a negative way now.
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    Youtube needs to step in and implement a monetization cut for IP owners who wants some of the cash youtubers are making or something this flat out denial of service gets old pretty fast.

    Looking at you Nintendo.
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    I'm not seeing the big mistake.

    You can't make money off of the game from youtube? Oh well?

    Everybody gotta whine about somethin'. Least it wasn't the servers this time.
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    legal issues with the creators of the content.
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    How many fails does this make now for a realm re-broken?
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    It's called copyright laws

    Copyright is a legal concept, enacted by most governments, giving the creator of an original work exclusive rights to it, usually for a limited time. Generally, it is "the right to copy", but also gives the copyright holder the right to be credited for the work, to determine who may adapt the work to other forms, who may perform the work, who may financially benefit from it, and other related rights.
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    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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