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    Quote Originally Posted by WingsofWar View Post
    how do you know this is a capacity problem? Do you even know what hardware the servers are using and at what rated capacity? Before SE added new servers during the last half of p4 and through EA, they have been having server issues already that did not point towards issues with capacity, rather logic errors in user run times based on the error messages we got in DF and other instances.

    Adding more servers wouldn't solve this 1017 problem, if it did, we would all be playing right now since SE can afford more servers. No this is a CODE issue, and adding more servers would only make the matter worse.

    When SE said, " we are placing login restrictions to address server instability issues.." what do you think they ment? making the servers smaller? or placing a filter on the quantity of incoming user login requests?

    Im willing to bet my server Diabolos is only running at 1/3 of the actual server capacity right now. And those who are getting 1017 errors are getting blocked by this filter before even accessing the request tunnel. Meaning the "SERVER FULL" is likely a defaulted false message when the client hits the filter.
    How do I know? Because they said so themselves in the following link: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...d7c59b9e695188

    08/27/2013 5:03 AM
    Regarding Congestion in Japan Data Center Worlds (Aug. 27)
    Thank you very much for playing FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn.

    Currently, an extremely high number of players are enjoying the game. Should the number of players continue to increase at the current pace, there is the possibility that our expectations and server capacity will be greatly surpassed. Therefore, in order to maintain a stable gameplay environment, we are implementing login and character creation restrictions.

    In order to be able to welcome a drastically greater number of players, we are starting as early as this week with preparations to increase our facilities, to be ready by early next week. Until that time, we will be continuing to implement these restrictions as required, and we ask for your understanding and patience.

    We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience, and once again thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaerie View Post
    How do I know? Because they said so themselves in the following link: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...d7c59b9e695188

    08/27/2013 5:03 AM
    Regarding Congestion in Japan Data Center Worlds (Aug. 27)
    Thank you very much for playing FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn.

    Currently, an extremely high number of players are enjoying the game. Should the number of players continue to increase at the current pace, there is the possibility that our expectations and server capacity will be greatly surpassed. Therefore, in order to maintain a stable gameplay environment, we are implementing login and character creation restrictions.

    In order to be able to welcome a drastically greater number of players, we are starting as early as this week with preparations to increase our facilities, to be ready by early next week. Until that time, we will be continuing to implement these restrictions as required, and we ask for your understanding and patience.

    We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience, and once again thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this matter.
    >Regarding Congestion in Japan Data Center Worlds
    >No mention of NA / EU
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    Dc all afk after 10 min and half of the prob ll be solved... i have friends that never dc and the game dont dc then... so ... lots of afk and lots of ppl trying to log and having 1017 error.. it sux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaerie View Post
    How do I know? Because they said so themselves in the following link: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...d7c59b9e695188

    08/27/2013 5:03 AM
    Regarding Congestion in Japan Data Center Worlds (Aug. 27)
    Thank you very much for playing FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn.

    Currently, an extremely high number of players are enjoying the game. Should the number of players continue to increase at the current pace, there is the possibility that our expectations and server capacity will be greatly surpassed. Therefore, in order to maintain a stable gameplay environment, we are implementing login and character creation restrictions.

    In order to be able to welcome a drastically greater number of players, we are starting as early as this week with preparations to increase our facilities, to be ready by early next week. Until that time, we will be continuing to implement these restrictions as required, and we ask for your understanding and patience.

    We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience, and once again thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this matter.
    JP servers are reaching server capacity, and they haven't had the same 1017 issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaerie View Post
    How do I know? Because they said so themselves in the following link ...
    WingsofWar you just got pwned! Sorry it's been a frustrating day. Aaerie you should be ashamed!

    Quote Originally Posted by WingsofWar View Post
    JP servers are reaching server capacity, and they haven't had the same 1017 issues.
    Actually I'm partially to blame, I've been a strong advocate of having as many NA/EU players go play on JP servers because we can't play on NA/EU servers.

    I figured that once JP servers get overloaded then SE will realize hey we'd better fix this fast before our own countrymen demand Seppuku!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glason View Post
    WingsofWar you just got pwned!
    did you just open your mouth and go full retard? he linked to a issue regarding JAPAN DATA CENTER, and we are talking about NA servers.. AND did nothing to support his claims about NA server capacity. AND I GET PWNED?

    sorry if my reply seemed harsh, XD
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    It could of been a typo on their part and meant NA/EU if your comment about JP servers not having issues is true. Regardless, here is the same thing from the "An Apology to Our Players Using NA/EU Data Centers". http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/68427

    Although we have successfully addressed a number of serious issues in the past several days, we have nevertheless decided to implement login restrictions for the time being due to the extremely heavy load being placed upon the servers. In this way, we can ensure that the maximum number of players can play the game without risking a server crash. I know no one wants to wait to log in, but I hope you all understand why we believe this precaution is necessary.

    [NA] Regarding Character Creation and Login Restrictions (Aug. 26)
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-%28Aug.-26%29

    As we continue to monitor the situation, we will be allowing players to log in sequentially. This will unfortunately have the effect of causing wait times for logins to these worlds, but this is a necessary step for the sake of server stability, and we ask for your understanding and patience during this time.

    FYI, I'm not a dude
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaerie View Post
    It could of been a typo on their part and meant NA/EU. Regardless, here is the same thing from the "An Apology to Our Players Using NA/EU Data Centers". http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/68427

    Although we have successfully addressed a number of serious issues in the past several days, we have nevertheless decided to implement login restrictions for the time being due to the extremely heavy load being placed upon the servers. In this way, we can ensure that the maximum number of players can play the game without risking a server crash. I know no one wants to wait to log in, but I hope you all understand why we believe this precaution is necessary.

    FYI, I'm not a dude.
    yeah could have been a typo. But if it wasn't, I really read it quite differently. Extremely Heavy Load on servers can literally be anything, even a loop that hasn't closed properly can run CPUs forever, and if you have 10 clients on a 50 client capacity server running the same loop you have x% more load than you should on a server.

    Also Login Restrictions was the key word for me, as they also said maximum number of players without risking a server crash. I interpreted it as the login in requests were putting more load on the servers than it should causing instability. They still have a max capacity on the server, but the login restrictions is the filter our clients are hitting when we see the 1017 "full server" when the server isn't full at all. but that is my guess.

    IMO If the servers were actually full, we would be in a que without the login restrictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WingsofWar View Post

    IMO If the servers were actually full, we would be in a que without the login restrictions.
    Yeah, and that is what is irritating me, and likely many people. It's not the wait, it's that you can't queue up and go get a sandwich or something, but you have to either not play or repeatedly try to login. It's a bit more than just a wait.

    Possible solution: pretend like the launch is a month from now. By then half the subs will have left because of this and everything will be just fine! Maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Szalvias View Post
    Yeah, and that is what is irritating me, and likely many people. It's not the wait, it's that you can't queue up and go get a sandwich or something, but you have to either not play or repeatedly try to login. It's a bit more than just a wait.

    Possible solution: pretend like the launch is a month from now. By then half the subs will have left because of this and everything will be just fine! Maybe.
    exactly, that is kinda whats been leading me to believe that the 1017 error everyone is seeing is actually just a filter, and doesn't correspond with the server being full at all.

    and only a very small randomized number of players that attempt to log in actually gets into the request tunnel, in which is a line of X amount of players, which ends up in a que. So spamming 1017s is not doing anything against the server since your not really logging in, rather just returning tons of false alerts.
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