Are you guys not logging out or something?

[XiaoliVorgan]

Wow.

Lets not forget servers are not made out of nothing. There is more than a meeting to be done. Hardware to be ordered, and received. Space to put the hardware acquired if they do not have enough in their current location. Make sure the cooling system is sufficient as well as power use. Then there is also the man hours involved in uploading the data to the server, making sure it is stable (so people don't froth at the mouth). Finally, if all goes according to plan they then have to decide how, if at all, they will implement server transfers. I am sure there are a ton of other quality related issues as well. Myself, I would prefer that they take the time to do it right, rather than slapping something together that fails or constantly has to be down for maintenance.

Everyone acts like it is super easy to do what they are doing. It isn't! Given a choice, I am sure the devs would prefer to see the forums filled with PRAISE for their products, not a lynch mob. Personally, I am taking the patience route. Do I want to log in and play? HECK YEAH! However I am not going to sit here obsessively trolling the forum, or spamming the log in.

No one is forgetting but everyone thinks they should have been better prepared. This is not the first MMO to exist on top of this being 2013. Not to mention they ran into these issues prior to the grand launching, the meeting should have gone down soon as EA was having this issue. Actually from what I heard, some of these issues were in Beta.. so yeah, I could be wrong though but still, they fuggin up right now. I also don't believe this is trolling, this is venting and people come here to do it with people going through the same situation and feeling the same way about it because apparently there is no one in customer support for which the vent can be directed to. However, you don't seem to have the need to vent about the topic of this thread nor do you feel the same as those venting, yet you are on this thread. That would be classified as trolling. But hey, I get it.. you're tired of reading threads with people bitchin about their issues. Don't click em.

[yoshi1996]

Wow.

Lets not forget servers are not made out of nothing. There is more than a meeting to be done. Hardware to be ordered, and received. Space to put the hardware acquired if they do not have enough in their current location. Make sure the cooling system is sufficient as well as power use. Then there is also the man hours involved in uploading the data to the server, making sure it is stable (so people don't froth at the mouth). Finally, if all goes according to plan they then have to decide how, if at all, they will implement server transfers. I am sure there are a ton of other quality related issues as well. Myself, I would prefer that they take the time to do it right, rather than slapping something together that fails or constantly has to be down for maintenance.

Everyone acts like it is super easy to do what they are doing. It isn't! Given a choice, I am sure the devs would prefer to see the forums filled with PRAISE for their products, not a lynch mob. Personally, I am taking the patience route. Do I want to log in and play? HECK YEAH! However I am not going to sit here obsessively trolling the forum, or spamming the log in.

this is how I feel, They will fix it eventually and we will all get to play. But for the time being they are limiting the servers to stabilize them so we can have an enjoyable play time soon (hopefully). There is no point in complaining that, ultimately, most of us have no idea about the problems they are facing. Many people act like they are leisurely strolling through these problems without having their PAYING customers in mind. Do not jump the gun and just give up on something that seems to have a lot of potential, and maybe with an added bonus for those that were affected, just saying, especially if you already paid for it. Why not just wait for the end of the 30 day subscription and get your money's worth.

[Curly-Wurly]

if i could get logged in i wouldn't log back out after this...

[Mychael]

I'm not logging out. Last time I was disconnected by the server, it took me 8 hours to get back in. <_<;

[Kirito_Kun]

I consider myself as having a pretty strong moral compass, but I'm beginning to really favour staying in myself...I'm a college student, what little time I have to play the game I'd like to actually play it, rather than stare at an error box...

[Veraddi]

My boyfriend logged in this morning and in the past 8 hours has played a grand total of 1 hour. He went to the Gym, made lunch, ran for the kids... he's been busy.

I have spent the past 4 hours trying to log in and stopping myself from signing him out on the hopes that if he logged off I could get in. Frankly, at least he gets to play. And I get to watch him, standing still, surrounded by now 60 characters than have not moved from their spot in over 4 hours...

So much for my day off...

[Kirito_Kun]

My boyfriend logged in this morning and in the past 8 hours has played a grand total of 1 hour. He went to the Gym, made lunch, ran for the kids... he's been busy.

I have spent the past 4 hours trying to log in and stopping myself from signing him out on the hopes that if he logged off I could get in. Frankly, at least he gets to play. And I get to watch him, standing still, surrounded by now 60 characters than have not moved from their spot in over 4 hours...

So much for my day off...

Yeah, see, that's the kind of behaviour that is just maddening. The last time I actually saw a "queue" window pop up, I was in spot 42 before it popped up with the 1017 error. I don't know if this is an accurate representation of how many people are legitimately trying to log in during these hours but if it is; those 60 spots could allow everyone access whilst those people did their daily routines in the real world. I've got another 2 hours to try to get in before I have to finish up my homeowrk and get some kip before school in the morning...it's an outrage...lol.

[WingsofWar]

I know the 1017 error is the new idea that SE came up with to keep the servers stable but I'm worried it's being catastrophically exploited by the selfish because ARR doesn't have an logout on afk feature built into it.

I understand everyone wants to play, that's kind of a moot point -- but at what point do the rest of us who wait hours clicking out character's names and get trolled for a few moment by the loading screen before the error box shows up get our play time?

Is there an ETA on when this system is going to be updated or policy changed to where we can all get some levelling in? I'd hate to be left behind by my guild because I few people park their characters in Ul'dah and go shopping for their groceries, et al.

Thanks!

-K.

From what i understand, All the servers are still running at max capacity as intended, but they have made login procedure tunnel incredibly small, filtering a limited number of login request at any given time. The Data Center is having trouble with a server side error so limiting the incoming traffic helps them pinpoint the issue.

I dunno where people are getting this "the servers are incapable of housing us blah blah blah" no, the servers are not even running at full capacity right now, when the tunnel has reached its request limit it sends the user a "server full" error when the server capactiy is really not full at all.

Iv temped at a Ruby Rails Data Centers before and when we want to find errors that cause instability we limit the incoming traffic rather than downsize the user database.

Even so, server side fixes shouldn't be taking this long unless there is an issue with the FFXIV client itself producing errors that populate into the server database, in which causes server instability tandemly. If that is the case, its going to take much longer than a day to find the issue because SE and the Data center have to work together. Finding a single syntax or logic error in a mountain of code isn't simple regardless of how much money or man power you have.

At the same time, SE or the Data Center shouldn't be having members of the coding staff be incompetent enough to even make mistakes that cause syntax/logic errors to begin with.

[Alienman]

Meh, if i get to log in, i'll be playing forever.

[Kirito_Kun]

I think it boils down more to people being utterly shocked and appalled at the fact that this wasn't sorted during the beta phase...when it realistically SHOULD have been sorted.