Lancer Equipment

[Osukaru]

As a tank I will say that its pretty crappy. Medium armors should not allow me to roll need on. And I pass if there is a LNC in the group. Actually, I run with a ARC/SUM and Me, so we usually try not to hose over the other random DPS we get. But man... I am about to stop inviting LNC'ers in our group. The general community of them is noticeably rude and challenging to play with. I have had 3 tell me that they were going to tank the run, and try with all their might to not follow the marks and pull agro just to tank "something". I'm to the point of letting them get the mob and then our healer lets em die.

Love it how people think everyone playing a certain class is the same way. I think this applies mostly to new people. I know as a Lancer that i certainly am not a tank and thus have to DPS whatever the Tank is aggroing. If people dont do that then obviously they need to learn their place.

[Artuzios]

Any news on a fix?

[Lithera]

1000% This. I'm really getting tired of losing out on this gear because I can't hit Need. It's bad enough that 90% of the quests offer LNC/DRG only the generic DoW gear instead of the more class specific gear the tanks get. I was severely let down when I ran a quest that ended in body gear and PLD/GLD/MRD/WAR got a HIGH Def body armor with superior STR AND a Crit Hit Rate+ and the only option for LNC/DRG was a generic DoW leather body with much less STR and only a Skill Speed+ to make it close to worthwhile. When I'm on my own I find myself downgrading to some of the lower level but higher Def scale armors and sacrificing damage for survivability.

[SoulNicked]

I think you are all incorrect. You are unable to roll on equipment you already have. I know because it happend to me on a unique lance in Haukke Manor on 9/5. So whoever said that the glad rolled "need" on the same piece of equipment twice is incorrect. And also, im not sure if you are all just getting in bad groups but I have always played with tanks and healers who check with me if I need a piece of equipment before they decide to roll or not. And I also let them know if the equipment is junk for me so that they can roll and pick it up if they decide to play a DoW class later on. Try communicating with your party. It has always worked out for me.

[Misutoraru]

I think you are all incorrect. You are unable to roll on equipment you already have. I know because it happend to me on a unique lance in Haukke Manor on 9/5. So whoever said that the glad rolled "need" on the same piece of equipment twice is incorrect. And also, im not sure if you are all just getting in bad groups but I have always played with tanks and healers who check with me if I need a piece of equipment before they decide to roll or not. And I also let them know if the equipment is junk for me so that they can roll and pick it up if they decide to play a DoW class later on. Try communicating with your party. It has always worked out for me.

dont think so
just drop a head gear that have +critical chance, and the def is way better than my 10 level lower gear, and still cant roll it

[Moonwood]

Same. I know the issue is old already, from a thread I did read long ago. I thought it was fixed until I start my own lancer and notice the gears my class could wear had no access to the "need" button and I had to roll like every person who can't wear it. This is a very frustrating issue. I know dragoon isn't a very popular class and it's probably why square doesn't bother to fix such a simple matter. But guess what.... if you didn't intend to fix looting bug from battle classes... maybe you shouldn't have create them!

[Moonwood]

And I know the 2nd partit's not the right thread. But the heavy gears for dragoon are really terribly design compare to those made by weaver and leathercraft. Did you seriously check the stat from a gear made from metal to a weaver / leather one?
Seriously ? Some designer need a spank here. Do you really believe a tank will go for a non "mrd/war/gld/pld" over a mrd/war/gld/pld/lnc/drg" one? Same stat but the 2nd one have less defense... Which mean a dragoon will have more defense but less attack if he wears it. And a tank will have less defense....
You could have just created a piece of it's own for drg/lnc as I'm sure you are planning to implement heavy gear dps classes in the futur.... Skip the "wearable" by tank and just make a piece of it's own for heavy classes. As it is now... not only it's bugged but it's a sad design.