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  1. #11
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    Atriese Lolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Design View Post
    User Agreement Policy from Final Fantasy 14 (you clicked Accept your first time logging in)
    In order to have "Interruption of Service" You must first have service. Which in some cases people have yet to log in and get this service. Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameroth View Post
    While I agree that it sucks, a lot, that I paid for a game I cannot play (problems in OB, problems during early access, game just launched and I cannot login), the others are right. there is no law being broken. when you agreed to play the game, you agreed to their ToS. Everyone knows that SE's ToS basically says "fuck you we'll do what we want, and you'll have to deal with it."

    Doesn't change that it sucks I can't play a game I exchanged money for.
    So they could write in their ToS "You agree to allowing us to murder you at any time we wish." And they could legally do that then? No.... ToS is not above the law.
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  3. #13
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    Jacques Noiret
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    Don't listen to stupid fanboys.

    Terms and conditions are not above the law. If you are from the USA or the UK or the rest of the EU, then you have no problems at all, you have not been able to play the game once, you are still on the first fortnight since purchase, the service promised was never given (this was no interruption, the game's official release is 08/27/2013 so without counting betas and shit) the game was never usable. You can't interrupt nothing that ain't working, bitch. So everyone asks for ur money back! I'll be returning this to Amazon straight away
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  4. #14
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    Cappy Mcadams
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    A ToS is NOT legally binding in ANY COUNTRY. No companies ToS has EVER been held up in a court, in any country. They are just disclaimers. A company can, and will write, whatever they want into a ToS. Just because they write it, and a lot of people are stupid enough to follow them, doesn't make it legal or binding.

    Anyone is capable of contacting whatever means they used to pay for the game, and asking for a refund based on the fact the service isn't providing what it advertised. I know Paypal has been giving out refunds for the game based on the fact players were denied EA that they paid for.
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  5. #15
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    Jacques Noiret
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    User Agreement Policy from Final Fantasy 14 (you clicked Accept your first time logging in)

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  6. #16
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    Varisa Merix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Layenem View Post
    You guys are aware that you cannot write a contract to negate a law that is already in place right? Consumer Law holds precedence over any contracts... as stated by contract law. That portion of the ToS is simply negated for countries that have consumer laws stating otherwise. I don't care what a contract (or ToS in this case) says, if you pay for something and it is not provided a full refund will be granted. Anyone dumb enough to believe that anything taking away your rights as a consumer is a legal binding contract needs to spend a day in a college course.
    And the fact that SE is a Japanese company that has no operations in areas such as the UK allows them to completely ignore any UK laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merix View Post
    And the fact that SE is a Japanese company that has no operations in areas such as the UK allows them to completely ignore any UK laws.
    And the fact that these laws apply to the consumer and where they purchased and shipped the product and not to the headquarters of an international company does not make them above other countries' consumer protection laws.
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