I hope dungeons in this game aren't like western MMO dungeons

[Gulkeeva]

I really hope dungeons in this game aren't like western mmo(WOW/WOW clone) dungeons. They're really boring after the 1st 1 or two times then just become boring loot grinds.

I enjoyed the way FFXI did "dungeons", limbus being my favorite. I didn't really like salvage because it was too limiting and favored certain classes too much, but it was a cool design as well.

Outdoor nm's/hnm's, outdoor end game zones(sea/sky) etc are also a ton better than dungeons for end game content, imo. It makes the world feel more alive, it makes it feel like you're playing an MMO, it makes it feel like a real world. Instanced stuff is really bland, and boring, and makes me feel like I'm playing a FPS or D2

So I really hope that all our "dungeons" and "end game" content isn't just bland and boring instanced dungeons WOW clone 101, but knowing SE they won't copy that I hope.

Limbus is basically a wow dungeon thats instanced, the only thing really different is... nothing cept its on ffxi?
1. Repeat scenery per instance
2. Kill mobs + end boss
3. Repeat at later time for "gear" and other items
whats different you can point out from limbus and a warcraft instance? I've played both for years (and endgame in both for years) I'd like to see some difference you can point out.


Outdoor "world" nms? I'll put this here on how people feel about "outdoor NM's"
http://www.neko-sentai.com/images2/nidd.jpg
If ya mean "world feel alive" fueled by alot of anger sure :P
Obviously the image "may" seem hilarious but its not hilarious when your actually there, even after 32+ hours this image was taken still trying to kill it without being killed ;/

[Chezen]

Would be fun I agree. Can't wait to see what SE has planned ^-^

Me too. ^^

/10 char

[Kilta_Firelotus]

No, she's right. I don't read ANY of your posts anymore, especially after your comment about 2 hours being useless in FFXI(You even called soul voice/sam 2 hour useless lol..). The only reason I read this one is because my eyes read it faster than I could scroll down the list, since your post was very short.

Having someone who hasn't played the game AT ALL posting so much is really annoying.

i was having a bad night. And used a too harsh word. I did play every job in ffxi and didn't like the 2hrs very much. The reason was due to there was too many paramaters involved. W.o the right sub/gear those 2 hrs were not that great. with the best gear they was too over powered.

don;t hold grudges... its kinda silly.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

No, she's right. I don't read ANY of your posts anymore, especially after your comment about 2 hours being useless in FFXI(You even called soul voice/sam 2 hour useless lol..). The only reason I read this one is because my eyes read it faster than I could scroll down the list, since your post was very short.

Having someone who hasn't played the game AT ALL posting so much is really annoying.

ps also get over yourself.. about me not playing. its not like i had a choice in that matter. And i want to stioll participate in what dev i can.

[Shiyo]

Limbus is basically a wow dungeon thats instanced, the only thing really different is... nothing cept its on ffxi?
;/

I love your website :X

And limbus is different because you port from area to area, it's lowmannable or zergable, you need to collect "pop items" to pop the two major bosses, while farming the pop items you get items you can trade in for +1 AF, you get beastcoins for special items/+1 AF, you can sell beastcoins, etc. There's also time extension chests, loot chests, and full restore chests. You had to choose between the 3 depending on your situation a lot. It just feels different imo, and was.

Western MMO dungeons are:
1) Clear trash for 15 mins
2) Kill boss
3) Repeat x3-5
4) Required a set number of people ALWAYS(boring)
5) Tuned exactly for that "gear level" and set party limit(boring)

[derekx]

I really hope dungeons in this game aren't like western mmo(WOW/WOW clone) dungeons. They're really boring after the 1st 1 or two times then just become boring loot grinds.

Completely agree. While I enjoyed many of those dungeons, those games had too much of an emphasis on knowing encounters instead of knowing game, class, and mob mechanics. They have their place in those games, but I don't care to see them here. I want the fight to challenge my ability to tank or to play a class, not an encyclopedia knowledge of some raid encounter.

[Chezen]

I love your website :X

And limbus is different because you port from area to area, it's lowmannable or zergable, you need to collect "pop items" to pop the two major bosses, while farming the pop items you get items you can trade in for +1 AF, you get beastcoins for special items/+1 AF, you can sell beastcoins, etc. There's also time extension chests, loot chests, and full restore chests. You had to choose between the 3 depending on your situation a lot. It just feels different imo, and was.

Pop? What does that mean?

[Jinko]

I love your website :X

And limbus is different because you port from area to area, it's lowmannable or zergable, you need to collect "pop items" to pop the two major bosses, while farming the pop items you get items you can trade in for +1 AF, you get beastcoins for special items/+1 AF, you can sell beastcoins, etc. There's also time extension chests, loot chests, and full restore chests. You had to choose between the 3 depending on your situation a lot. It just feels different imo, and was.

Thats not really any different that WoW, you get badges whilst running WoW raids which you trade in for epic armour, same thing.

You don't need full restore because mp and hp return as a decent pace and not a snails pace, you don't pop the final boss but you can't reach him until you kill the others because they are directly in your path.

All bosses are timed and will enrage after 8 mins.

[Mitsuhide]

I dont care if its western, eastern, northern oder southern.
It just has to be good.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I personally want fun dungeons that are not resiticting like some of ffxi's were. the "need monk/nin" stuff got old......