Crafting Leves - no items?

[free_lancer]

I picked up a crafting leve yesterday and noticed it didn't give me any materials to craft the requested item. Is that normal now?

It seems odd that with a battlecraft leve, you can just kill the requested mobs and whatnot. And similarly for a gathering leve you can go and just mine, fish or botany the requested item. But for crafting, I have to go and gather all the items myself? So, I need to level up miner and botanist just to do crafting now? (Yes, the other option is just to buy all the materials from the Markets.)

[Naria]

Yes crafting leves no longer give you materials to craft.

[Corral]

This isn't very fair to Disciples of the Hand, they want the items they should supply the materials, is only fair.

[TohruHonda]

Yes it's a silly change. They need to change it back to how it used to be.

[Shinalia]

This was definitely not a very well thought out change.

[Seriphim85]

I like it now. At least it's more on par with disciples of war and magic. Otherwise there's no challenge. It encourages you to do multiple jobs to get the items for free or go find lower cost options. I personally think there's too much spoon fed exp. in the game as it is. People should not be able to burn 1-50 in four or five days. This is an MMO after all. Giving away this much exp is going to burn out content for the playerbase very quickly. Without quick expansions they won't be able to retain players.

[Canoness24]

@Seriphim85 I hate to break it to you but if you have the gil you can burn 1-50 in four or five days just by going to the vendors and buying the crafting items needed for the quest. Tell me were is the joy in that? In 1.0 I felt like my crafting classes were needed as if my skills mattered in the world. Yes i may sound retarded for saying that, but that was what I experienced back in 1.0 when i started back in August 2011. I hate how the new leves are now there soulless I feel like all am doing is just working on crafting class just to make gil. Well that my two gil and am sticking to it.

[Seriphim85]

True enough but at least you have to have the gil, or do some homework on which ones are profit bearing leves, instead of being handed everything on a silver platter.

[Asael]

Just discovered this myself. Someone really didn't think this one all the way through. If someone in my FC or LS asks me to make something for them the deal is I will synth it as long as they provide the materials required. Why wouldn't it work that way here? I know it doesn't work that way in the real world, but here in ARR that's a really dumb idea as it will encourage people to basically buy their levels instead of actually crafting. I just bought over 21,000 xp for about 5000 gil. =/

[EinherjarLucian]

How exactly would getting the materials for free make the tradecraft leves more challenging?

Let me share something with you: You get a +200% XP bonus for turning in an HQ item to a tradecraft leve. Plus you get a roughly +200% to +300% XP bonus for each item you attempt to make HQ. If you're just buying finished items off the vendor to turn in, you're seriously wasting your money and throwing away tens of thousands of free XP.

THIS is why you don't get the materials for free. You can go get a freaking pickaxe and hatchet, maybe spend an hour gathering, and have literally everything you need to make a huge batch of items for a tradecraft leve that will yield, all totaled, at least six times as much XP between the HQ crafting XP bonuses and the HQ turn-in XP bonus.