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  1. #781
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    yushiamo's Avatar
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    Yushi Nazaki
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Thanks for all the replies, CD rotation ain't really a problem. It's just some little things that we're missing. For example we had our Warrior second tank just tell us she kept forgetting to dps the conflag. And she usually start when it was at 50% which is nearly 5seconds of not dpsing the conflag. Also we are using a SMN, maybe (if I can convince them) he can switch to his BLM for more burst damage. And have some of the lazy dps actually use food buffs.

    There's just these little things holding us backs on such a fight. Just needed to know that indeed conflag we're on different timer and we should aim for under 10second conflag kills to be confident in the fight.
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  2. #782
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    Subucnimorning's Avatar
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    Blue Lightt
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by yushiamo View Post
    Thanks for all the replies, CD rotation ain't really a problem. It's just some little things that we're missing. For example we had our Warrior second tank just tell us she kept forgetting to dps the conflag. And she usually start when it was at 50% which is nearly 5seconds of not dpsing the conflag. Also we are using a SMN, maybe (if I can convince them) he can switch to his BLM for more burst damage. And have some of the lazy dps actually use food buffs.

    There's just these little things holding us backs on such a fight. Just needed to know that indeed conflag we're on different timer and we should aim for under 10second conflag kills to be confident in the fight.
    SMN is good dps on conflags, just needs to manage it properly. SMN is also the only class that can hit its own Conflag.
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  3. #783
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    Yenn Sylph
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Subucnimorning View Post
    SMN is good dps on conflags, just needs to manage it properly. SMN is also the only class that can hit its own Conflag.
    No it's not and no it can't (reliably), but that's a different topic.
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  4. #784
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    Lhin Gaea
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    No it's not and no it can't (reliably), but that's a different topic.
    Sadly, you keep teeling this kind of words even if several SMN had tried to show you that Shadowflare (previously use under the boss), bane, fester, 2 or 3 pet's autoattack with spur or enhanced rouse, ruin+ruin2 are nearly 2k/2k5 damage on conflag (depends on crit)... Nevermind, it's quite boring to hear that
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  5. #785
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    Arland's Avatar
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    Yjrn Eruyt
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    Shiva
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Can someone tell me how to avoid the bug where a dreadknight dies and twintania keeps casting unwavering will on players? Yesterday we had like 2 DPS and 1 Healer in invisible prison.

    Idk if this was before we managed to deal with them switfly or afterwards too, all i know is that i want to understand this bug and know how to deal with it before it fucks over another of our trys this evening.
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  6. #786
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    EikoCeuracanth's Avatar
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    Eiko Ceuracanth
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arland View Post
    Can someone tell me how to avoid the bug where a dreadknight dies and twintania keeps casting unwavering will on players? Yesterday we had like 2 DPS and 1 Healer in invisible prison.

    Idk if this was before we managed to deal with them switfly or afterwards too, all i know is that i want to understand this bug and know how to deal with it before it fucks over another of our trys this evening.
    It happens when the initial target of the dreadknight fixate dies right before the dreadknight dies. To avoid it you have to kill the dreadknight before it reaches the target, or wait until Twintania recasts the stun on someone. Honestly though, if you aren't killing dreadknights before they reach people consistently then you're going to meet enrage.
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  7. #787
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    Rusalka Camenae
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    Gilgamesh
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    Carpenter Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EikoCeuracanth View Post
    It happens when the initial target of the dreadknight fixate dies right before the dreadknight dies. To avoid it you have to kill the dreadknight before it reaches the target, or wait until Twintania recasts the stun on someone. Honestly though, if you aren't killing dreadknights before they reach people consistently then you're going to meet enrage.
    Not necessarily true, dreads are pretty much a test of your burst damage and not sustained damage. My group kills Twin over a minute before the enrage timer, but the dreads and the perma stun bug can effectively end a run even if we are on pace to win. We lost to the enrage timer once at 3% while basically auto attacking to build the limit break bar at the beginning and after we adjusted it so we didnt need to and were saving a good minute of dps time we ended up getting screwed by the bug 6 times in a row as she was crossing into the final phase before we finally crushed her. Sometimes shit happens, and when you are going with 2 melee dps and a pld off tank like we do it can sometimes be difficult to get the damage you need before it walks half a step and kills a person that is stunned. If it happens every time a dread spawns, then yes you aren't going to be winning the fight, but the fact that someone dying to a dread right now effectively will end most runs is pretty bullshit because in concept it is something that shouldn't be too difficult to recover from for a competent party if there is a slip up and you don't manage to get that last 2-5% of a dreads hp down before it kills someone.
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  8. #788
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    Arland's Avatar
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    Yjrn Eruyt
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    Shiva
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    Lancer Lv 80
    We manage to kill the dreads quickly enough, but with a bit bad luck one of our two melees or pld (not sure if pld can be targeted, normally i stare on the focus target because of twister ^^) get's stuck in prison and dies. 10% try today with 30-40secs left, so DPS is not the issue. We just can't afford to run away from the dread first before we start to kill it. (Melee)

    But today no one died to the Dread so i doubt this will screw us over as much as the day before. Thanks for the clarification though.
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    Last edited by Arland; 11-15-2013 at 09:38 AM.


  9. #789
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    KroLeXz's Avatar
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    Kro Lex
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    no one died to dread? and you didn't kill twin? The last phase is a joke, once your past twister phase it pretty much a kill because you def. have the dps if no one is dying to dreads.
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  10. #790
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    Arland's Avatar
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    Yjrn Eruyt
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    Shiva
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Last time i posted here we had our first two to three attempts on the last phase. Even if the last phase is easy as hell, it takes a few trys to adjust.
    But people decide to die on other things, like twister... Don't ask my how. I know that i don't have any issues. 1%, 4% trys today, wipe because of 1-2 people dying to twister = TP starved + weakness. Duh! If one or two of our DPS die we are pretty much fucked in regards to her enrage, i guess.

    Well as long as we kill her this ID i won't complain ^^
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    Last edited by Arland; 11-17-2013 at 05:55 AM.


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