Binding Coil of Bahamut Discussion

[cash_money]

Curious on the progression part of Binding Coil.With one group, I cleared the first half of Turn 1 (ADS) and did not get done Cad. The next night I was in a brand new group that had not started turn 1 and they were worried that using my progress (me beating first mini boss) would make it so they don't get any loot after killing CAD.

Can anyone confirm that loot is altered if you skip the first mini boss, ADS, by using someone else's progress?

I thought that the issue was if you fully clear a Turn, not halfway clearing.

Thanks,

[Xilrasis]

Curious on the progression part of Binding Coil.With one group, I cleared the first half of Turn 1 (ADS) and did not get done Cad. The next night I was in a brand new group that had not started turn 1 and they were worried that using my progress (me beating first mini boss) would make it so they don't get any loot after killing CAD.

Can anyone confirm that loot is altered if you skip the first mini boss, ADS, by using someone else's progress?

I thought that the issue was if you fully clear a Turn, not halfway clearing.

Thanks,

Loot in turn 1 is only dependent on killing Caduceus. The only restriction is that once you have fully cleared a turn, you cannot re-enter the turn (or if partially cleared, enter a turn less progressed than you.) They may, however, use your lockout with no penalty.

[Medieval]

Curious on the progression part of Binding Coil.With one group, I cleared the first half of Turn 1 (ADS) and did not get done Cad. The next night I was in a brand new group that had not started turn 1 and they were worried that using my progress (me beating first mini boss) would make it so they don't get any loot after killing CAD.

Can anyone confirm that loot is altered if you skip the first mini boss, ADS, by using someone else's progress?

I thought that the issue was if you fully clear a Turn, not halfway clearing.

Thanks,

Nope. Loot is based on the boss, not the mini boss.

[Yenn]

I think its funny that anyone is trying to justify it for them. Take a moment and put yourselves in their shoes:

1) You engage the boss, expecting an otherwise normal attempt.
2) At some random percentage, the boss stops behaving as normal.
3) You continue for some short time, expecting the boss to return to normal. At this point it is obviously NOT returning to normal.
4) You make the _conscious decision_ to continue and defeat the encounter.

We also know how to reproduce this bug, but we (obviously) wiped when it happened, and stopped doing the thing that causes it. I doubt these are the only people who killed Twintania with it.

[cash_money]

Thanks, group did not want to risk it so this is great to know!

[NeoAmon]

Lets talk a bit about turn 4.

Unfortunate I'm the only source of magic dmg in my Coil group. Do we have to make adjustment to the group and replace one of the 3 physical DDs with another BLM/SMN? Or is it possible with just 1 BLM?

Also any strat to follow? what to watch out for, what to focus on. Any info would help before we do our first serious attempt on Sunday.

[Medieval]

Lets talk a bit about turn 4.

Unfortunate I'm the only source of magic dmg in my Coil group. Do we have to make adjustment to the group and replace one of the 3 physical DDs with another BLM/SMN? Or is it possible with just 1 BLM?

Also any strat to follow? what to watch out for, what to focus on. Any info would help before we do our first serious attempt on Sunday.

It's totally possible to do with three physical DPS. Just remember to pop the soldiers as they don't do any damage and everyone can attack them during their pop. Work out the strat on your own from there, It is possible none the less.

[Yenn]

Does anyone hope SE explains what they were thinking with Turn 5?

I'm really not enjoying having one healer get put in Conflag and the other healer get Fireball at the same time. It feels like an RNGfest.

[Xilrasis]

Does anyone hope SE explains what they were thinking with Turn 5?

I'm really not enjoying having one healer get put in Conflag and the other healer get Fireball at the same time. It feels like an RNGfest.

Are you still trying to dump fireballs that come after conflags into the conflag? If so, yes, it could very well feel that way.

[Yenn]

Are you still trying to dump fireballs that come after conflags into the conflag? If so, yes, it could very well feel that way.

The timer on the first Fireball is totally random, and sometimes throws it off for the rest of the encounter.
She had four stacks, Fireball was coming out on one healer, and the other healer was targeted with Conflag shortly after, so that the Fireball and Conflag hit at roughly the same time.