Binding Coil of Bahamut Discussion

[Pellegri]

Good grief, have a little pride as a gamer. Handed out hints to counter boss mechanics? What is this world coming to, really?

And people wonder why the majority(if not all) of endgame content is completed within the first few days of a patch's lifespan in WoW. They hand you a guide for what every single boss does even on heroic difficulty bringing a kill down to just whether or not you have the gear or skill to move out of things while doing your rotation. The reason why so many things in WoW are easy now is because each and every thing is handed to you on a silver platter, there is nothing to learn anymore outside of class rotation which has always been easy enough for mmos after spending enough time online.

[Xilrasis]

The problem with Twintania isn't that you have to "figure out mechanics" etc, its that once you do (or think you do) you have to distinguish whether your death from mechanics is due to 1) Improper Understanding of the mechanic, 2) Player failure, or 3) Dying due to server de-syncs despite doing the same thing you did to avoid the mechanic the last 5 times it happened.

Unfortunately, #3 happens much too frequently on the later phases of the encounter and makes you question #2, and especially #1.

Also, if you couldn't figure out Allaghan rot in all of like... two pulls... you should probably take a step back and wait on content to be handed to you instead of wasting your time.

[Yenn]

The problem with Twintania isn't that you have to "figure out mechanics" etc, its that once you do (or think you do) you have to distinguish whether your death from mechanics is due to 1) Improper Understanding of the mechanic, 2) Player failure, or 3) Dying due to server de-syncs despite doing the same thing you did to avoid the mechanic the last 5 times it happened.

Unfortunately, #3 happens much too frequently on the later phases of the encounter and makes you question #2, and especially #1.

Also, if you couldn't figure out Allaghan rot in all of like... two pulls... you should probably take a step back and wait on content to be handed to you instead of wasting your time.

This is exactly the problem. Sunwell Plateau in WoW was probably the hardest content in any MMO, and it didn't rely on forcing you to spend 10 minutes fighting a boss to reach a phase and wipe after 20 seconds, without learning anything.
Every time you wiped, there was an obvious reason for it, and the number of players who actually saw/beat most of these encounters was ridiculously low, even after there were guides to them.

Again, Allagan Rot is just an example of a mechanic that gives you absolutely no clue what the ability does, and relies on you figuring it out with brute force.
I'm using it as an example of an ability whose mechanics are completely unknown. I consider this acceptable for Rot, because it's the only unknown mechanic in the encounter, and it isn't a billion long phases of unknown mechanics (a la Twintania)

It's fun to figure things out, but it's not fun when 90% of the difficulty is figuring things out and 10% is executing a strategy correctly and playing well.
I don't think any FC who is spending multiple nights of their week on Twintania would agree that they're having fun. Everyone is basically just throwing themselves at her, right now.

[SezaruRei]

If you want boss mechanics and strats handed to you like WoW's Dungeon Journal then wait a few months and follow the inevitable Twintania guides.

[Sigmakan]

Learning the mechanics of boss fights is the best part of end-game content . . .

[Pinch]

This is exactly the problem. Sunwell Plateau in WoW was probably the hardest content in any MMO, and it didn't rely on forcing you to spend 10 minutes fighting a boss to reach a phase and wipe after 20 seconds, without learning anything.

Sounds like M'uru phase 2 to me. Good thing they removed spell pushback.

[Etgar]

I was wondering, what is the best way to go about downing ADS with a pld, war, whm, whm, mnk, brd, mnk, blm comp?

[Pinch]

I was wondering, what is the best way to go about downing ADS with a pld, war, whm, whm, mnk, brd, mnk, blm comp?

Leave Rot + Gravity Well + Ballast alive, aka go down the left side. You won't get blunt resist that way.

[Etgar]

Leave Rot + Gravity Well + Ballast alive, aka go down the left side. You won't get blunt resist that way.

Figured that much, just wondering because we didn't even try right side.

[Rhained]

Figured that much, just wondering because we didn't even try right side.

Right side gives boss piercing and blunt resistance, left side is magic and slashing resistance.