This is sad.

[Crashdummy]

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Although i may simpathyze with part of this, part of the problem is that the gmng industry release the lowest quality prods in the world.

Any company in any other industry that releases a prod as faulty as the gaming industry releases these days would go broke, instantly. This isnt a SE only issue, since in comparison to others the game is not that buggy, but an ind problem. The qty standards this industry admits are seriously too low.

Now i am a system eng, i know there is no chance to make a soft this big without bugs, but i also know that with more time and resources most of the games released in the last 10 years of the industry would have launched with 90% less probs.

Whether it is bc they want to cut cost to earn more money, or because the gamers pressure for early launchs, the gmng industry is in a qty crisis that will have to be adressed.

This course cant be carried on, companies will have to start making better qty products.

[Crunchy_Waffles]

Thanks for making a thread about this, and I'm glad it's received so much attention.

I've pretty much felt the same way as OP my entire time on the forums, but I tried not to get involved as I know there's no pleasing someone who's determined to be dissatisfied.
Just like there's no reasoning with someone who's determined not to reason.

I'm happy to see the server issues easing up and more people enjoying a stable environment within which to play.

Yoshi-P and his team, and Square Enix altogether have made a massive effort in recreating this game and as someone who dropped 1.0 within the first 2 weeks with how bad it was... ARR feels like a masterpiece.

Yeah, there have been a few hiccups with the release because of the completely unprecedented amount of people to show interest in the game; but that is already being eased over and will likely be optimized within the coming week or 2.


I guess patience is a virtue people don't care for these days.


Edit: before someone brings up my contradicting signature, that is there in 100% good humor.

[ThaliNeko]

i'm with Yoshi, now and forever! i love this game and i love the work that Yoshi and the devs did and will do. Who doesnt understand the work that they did, can easily doing others thing.

[Seregil]

Deifying Yoshi-P and the developers as if they were the second coming of Jesus Fucking Christ? When I purchased this game, I didn't realize I was supposed to be joining a cult. Tell me, when are we all supposed to start drinking the Kool-Aid and dropping dead in our secret compound in the Texas desert?

I tried logging in on my rare day off this morning at 7:30am EST. That's 4:30am PST. On a Thursday. And I got the 1017 "world is full, try again later" error. I haven't been able to pass beyond the character select screen since Sunday morning.

Don't sit here and try to tell me that my anger is misplaced and that we "made poor Yoshi-P cry". Don't try to tell me to "go do something else" with my time. I paid as much as you did for a service they're not providing me and tens of thousands of players like me.

Anyone who says this has been anything short of a disastrous launch is either blind, ignorant, or both.

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

[Teta]

I couldn't play wow for like the whole first month in between the constant maintenance and crashes. when I did managed to get in, I\\\\'d get stuck in the looting animation. Content bugs everywhere. At least in this game when you managed to get in, the game actually worked. I\\\\'m sick and tired of people here crying about an mmo launch not working 100 percent. Seriously, go cry somehow else.

[Rydin]

I couldn't play wow for like the whole first month in between the constant maintenance and crashes. when I did managed to get in, I\\\\'d get stuck in the looting animation. Content bugs everywhere. At least in this game when you managed to get in, the game actually worked. I\\\\'m sick and tired of people here crying about an mmo launch not working 100 percent. Seriously, go cry somehow else.

No offense to you... but seriously, what the fuck does your WoW experience have to do with me paying for a product that doesn't work more often than it does?
I personally don't care if Blizzard came to your house to paddle you daily. A company screwing you in 2004 has nothing to do with SE providing bad service to paying customers now.
I swear, Blizzard (and FFXI as well) set the bar so low that people are ecstatic when they come across mediocrity.

[Bizniztyme]

No offense to you... but seriously, what the fuck does your WoW experience have to do with me paying for a product that doesn't work more often than it does?
I personally don't care if Blizzard came to your house to paddle you daily. A company screwing you in 2004 has nothing to do with SE providing bad service to paying customers now.
I swear, Blizzard (and FFXI as well) set the bar so low that people are ecstatic when they come across mediocrity.

Your whining is mediocre, i'm sure you can do better then that.

[Crashdummy]

I couldn't play wow for like the whole first month in between the constant maintenance and crashes. when I did managed to get in, I\\\\'d get stuck in the looting animation. Content bugs everywhere. At least in this game when you managed to get in, the game actually worked. I\\\\'m sick and tired of people here crying about an mmo launch not working 100 percent. Seriously, go cry somehow else.

You are seriously comparing this launch with a launch made 9 years ago?

Yes, this is not the worst launch in the history of gaming, that doesnt make this a good launch either.

The problem is that this launch is having problems because the company was greedy and didnt have enough hardware, not because of unexpected bugs.

It makes no sense to buy more servers than anticipated because population always drops after first month, what are they going to do with all the extra servers?

This is wrong, it does makes sense, its called having respect for your playerbase. With the remainng servers you could leave them as backup servers, or you could use them in your next online game launch, or you could sell them used to another company.

What makes no sense is setting up less servers than what you need, knowing your playerbase will have problems at launch, just because you will earn more money because some of them will ineviotably leave.

[Teta]

Launch problems happens in every single mmo in recent memory, wow is just one example. they will continue to happen years down the line, to other games, by other companies, to other players, your kids, and their kids. It's a fact of life of how server technology works. It makes no sense to buy more servers than anticipated because population always drops after first month, what are they going to do with all the extra servers?

[Rydin]

Launch problems happens in every single mmo in recent memory, wow is just one example. they will continue to happen years down the line, to other games, by other companies, to other players, your kids, and their kids. It's a fact of life of how server technology works. It makes no sense to buy more servers than anticipated because population always drops after first month, what are they going to do with all the extra servers?

I guess that makes it alright.
As long as this is people's attitude then yes, they will continue to happen.
Do they have to happen? Are they inevitable? NO. Absolutely not
Should they continuously happen in MMO after MMO as if each one is the first MMO in existence? I think we both know the answer to that

We've got to stop doing this.
Every time SE does the players wrong, we excuse it by citing examples of other companies doing players worse. That is not an excuse.

But just for you, I'll say "Thank you SE for not letting the servers crash and stay down for a month, oh mighty, reverent Devs... blessed art thou that patcheth us unto more errors"