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  1. #211
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    I posted this in a different section, but I feel it pertains to here too. I have to edit this post as I used over 2k characters so moment.

    *Edit*

    If I may interject: I am not level 50 and this is to be honest my first Final Fantasy based MMORPG. I understand and appreciate Yoshida as well as his team. I've been playing Final Fantasy for almost 25 years now and I love the franchise even though there are some in the series with yes, bad design and I can say that having played them all but FFXI and FFXIII - Lightning Returns. My friends call me Final Fantasy obsessed which I suppose is true considering the facts. Final Fantasy XIV: ARR is a beautiful game and it is fun... when you can get it.

    I am an American and yes I will say that the NA/EU have had their share of server hiccups, maintanence issues, other issues attributed to the server. I got locked out of most of beta 4 due to a weird login error after getting booted. I will still play this game, yes. My best friend usually tells me I support Square even when it is at its worst. I am sure that yes, they may be working, and mayhap I hope they are trying to resolve the issue. I'm one of the ones that get the constant, World is Full error. I will not bash on them for that. They under-estimated the success of this launch, it's human to error.

    But to look at it from a business stand-point, how it is currently being handled may be bad for business. I've seen a good suggestion floating around about booting the AFK players if they are AFK for longer than an hour, give or take. If they implemented even that function it might help with some of the congestion errors. People are not seeming to want to log off due to they fear they will not be able to get back on. All that does is keep a server full without letting new players login. In reality that could be a simple fix rather than locking out the servers, at least until they can make some headway with the current issues.

    I can wholeheartedly understand the frustration of those that pre-ordered the game or bought the game at launch who are unable to play. They spent money on a product that they have yet to use. At least try to be civil, how would you feel if you wanted to play but could not? Fighting, trolling, white knighting, what help does that give the developers in imput? That energy could be used on something more constructive. Sorry if I have offended anyone, that was not my goal. I'm just trying to be logical and sensible to a situation that looks out of control.

    *Further Edit*

    Personally I think we should be trying to help the dev. team with input that is constructive. I am bashing no one, nor will I. Some of us do not mind the wait, I do not, but again I do however understand the frustration of those that can not get in.

    Lack of communication does not help though, that much I will say. Anyone that has ever developed anything should realize that communication is the key to success. Yes there will be negative and positive things said, they are both sides to one coin. But again, please try to put the energy into something that will be positive. None of us want to see this game fail.

    I have said my piece. I just hope that others can see this logic. ~Raven
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    Last edited by Raveykins; 08-28-2013 at 07:58 AM.

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    I don't give a shit who cries and who doesn't.
    Yoshi-p is indeed a grown ass man getting paid to do a job.
    And let's be honest, he's not saving babies or feeding small children in Africa.
    I'm not saying he shouldn't cry if that's what he felt after such a long process.
    I'm just saying no one should care or make a big deal about said tears
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    Quote Originally Posted by teh_nam3less View Post
    It's going both ways really. The white knights and the whiners are both equally retarded in my eyes. This game is not perfect nor is it the best MMO. Why can't both sides see that?
    You have to realize that saying a mmo is perfect is a opinion not a fact. Same with calling it the best mmo. IMO FFXIV is the best mmo to come out in years. Some people will say FFXIV is perfect while others will call it garbage both of which are opinions.
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    Sorry, I'm not buying it.

    I like Yoshi P, he seems like a great guy, very smart and dedicated, and the quality of the game speaks to the fact that he and his team "get it."

    But right now, S-E is failing, and this isn't beta any more and it's not 1.0. The failures they're having are predictable and preventable, which means that some one in charge of planning has failed to do their job.

    I don't know or believe that person is Yoshi P, but as part of the leadership at S-E, Yoshi shares responsibility to make things right.

    When I see an actual plan of action from S-E with a timeline for when I can actually play the game I have paid for, then I will start to give them some credit, and not until then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echou View Post
    People crying cause they can't play a game 24/7 and when a patient one tries to reason with them, they call him a white knight and a bumlicker. Waging a war on the other people on the internet, over a bloody video game? Nice job.

    I agree it's annoying when the game is clogged up. But they'll fix it. They better fix it.

    In the meantime, close your PC, get outside, live and love. Or you can just play something else.
    They do not have to fix anything FYI. You are lucky to even being playing the game at all! So your "They better fix it." comment so complete rubbish. They have done enough as is frankly on all aspects of preparing the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huneidu View Post
    They do not have to fix anything FYI. You are lucky to even being playing the game at all! So your "They better fix it." comment so complete rubbish. They have done enough as is frankly on all aspects of preparing the game.
    No, no, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that if the problems keep going past release, it will bite in the arse. They will fix it, they have to fix it.
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    Last edited by Echou; 08-28-2013 at 08:00 AM.

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    The OP says like they're doing some kind of favor for us. You know what is sad? Pay and not play. We aren't just players, isn't a F2P game, is a P2P game, we are customers, and so the complaints are valid.
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    Final Fantasy XIV: Here you pay and have to pray to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qoff View Post
    The OP says like they're doing some kind of favor for us. You know what is sad? Pay and not play. We aren't just players, isn't a F2P game, is a P2P game, we are customers, and so the complaints are valid.
    ^ Agreed.

    The time for white knights has ended. It's time to stop being clouded by guilt and emotions and face what is happening.

    Also, i don't blame Yoshi-P. I blame whoever is in charge of the NA/EU servers. Obviously not all of Square-enix is bad as the JP servers are fine. But they shouldn't have hired middle school students to fix the NA/EU servers.
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    I feel extremely bad for Yoshi-P and his team right now. At this point, NA/EU don't even deserve the game with how entitled you guys are.
    You guys please don't make Yoshi-P cry, look at what you're doing to him with all of your entitled complaining about buying a thing that isn't working. Please lift your hands to the air and lend Yoshi-P your spirit energy (money) to help him dry his tears.


    He is definitely tearing up over finishing the game and not the busted servers, right?
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    I have found it revolting to see just how entitled an abusive the NA community is. Which is funny because after the hate an fear mongering of NA in FFXI an their hate towards the JP community, you would think we would be used to it by now . I am annoyed that every day now I cant play more than a couple of hours a day because you cant get into servers till NA people log off for night, but aside from that the community is horrible.
    There is even a race hate guild on my server. As for the forums, I think most of the hate an entitlement is coming from the younger ones who have no patience anyway. I have alot of respect for the JP Devs an what they have done with the game, they definitely dont deserve the tantrums that we are seeing now.
    What is amusing is its the "American/Canadian" Server people who are at fault......NOT THE JAPANESE

    Some of you need to think on that.

    edit yeah I did report that guild so I dont know if MODS have seen it and or done anything about them. I am not going to advertise the name here as it doesn't deserve any more attention.
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    Last edited by TasOgie; 08-28-2013 at 09:20 AM.

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