for the tanks.

[Fornix]

if the DD & healer are out tanking you, you're doing it very wrong.

Alternatively, the healer and DPS are doing it very wrong.

Fact is, it is very easy in this game to pull initial aggro. I mainly play a tank, but as a conjurer it's even easier to take and maintain aggro simply by doing what many healers do; needlesly start spamming heals as the tank hasn't even thrown out a flash yet. Then it's just a matter of continued healing to maintain that aggro, with every flash just very briefly making mobs look towards the tank.

And of course for DPS the primary issue most commonly being simply not attacking the tanks target. Either by actually single targeting a certain mob, or trying to AoE things down.

[JyoonB]

To all of Eorzea(how ever you spell it): DON'T STAND ON RED CIRCLES PURPOSELY!!!!!!!!!!! That it all.

[IndigoHawk]

I don't understand why everyone hates on ACNs using Topaz. (No pun intended.) <snip> Where's the problem here?

If someone has Topaz out, I don't fight Topaz for aggro, and I let it do its thing. However, I prefer that Topaz is put away when things get serious.
The problem with pet tanks is that they interfere with tanks doing their role properly. Pet tanks position enemies badly, and face them in the wrong direction. They interfere with AoE skills, unless the tank follows Topaz's lead and stands wherever it happens to put enemies.
If the fight is easy, go ahead and have Topaz out. If the fight is difficult, please understand that even though Topaz is taking a few hits for the tank, they can make the tank and everyone else work harder. If the fight gets difficult, probably Topaz will die anyway, so the problem will take care of itself.

[TessaJalloh]

Dear every other class.

Follow my lead, and focus on my target. I'm not going to hop to protect a quick trigger DD that wants to solo his own enemy.

Healers, stop using your water jet attack to knock my friggin target away from me and sleep them. That just makes me have to switch to a nearer target, and will probably mean when the bugger wakes up he's coming after YOU.

Off Tanks, don't compete with me for hate on the main mob unless the mob itself cleans aggro.

Arcanists, your topaz carbuncle is not a super saiyan. He's annoying and has just as much hate generation as i do, except i can't tell him to knock it off. Use your blue carby, he's ranged DPS anyway and is much more useful to the group.

Archers, this isn't FFXI, i don't need you to pull things to me, i can do that myself and it's much easier for me to set the hate table that way.

Sincerely, your friendly neighbourhood paladin.

[Kenka]

To all of Eorzea(how ever you spell it): DON'T STAND ON RED CIRCLES PURPOSELY!!!!!!!!!!! That it all.

If only it was that simple.. I blame my internet connection, but I keep getting hit by AoEs while being really far from the red areas when the cast is finished Y_Y

[MisterPessimism]

I was "put in my place" by an arcanist who kept running ahead and got angry when his carbuncle kept grabbing aggro and dying. He had the nerve to call me a terrible tank when he would constantly dot sleeping targets and attack the mobs I wasn't. All I could do was smile and laugh.

Please Arcanist responsibly.

[Teashiori]

AGREED. I was put into 2 different parties and both had a very inexperienced tank. The tank for the first primal boss fight even ditched us halfway so 3 of us had to take it on. We got super close though. like if we had 3 more mins we coulda done it. Tanks study up please.

[Emmesty]

Not far into the game yet, but for any early mrd having some issues with trigger happy dd, it's all about the pull. Even if they pull initial agro, toss your axe, then stun closest target, throw a non combo sunder just for that first bit of "got ya". This should pile the mobs nicely, then overpower until you get tired of the button. After that rotate the targets with heavy/sunder combo for tp efficiency. I'm one of those bad tanks who fight a carby for agro just because of the positioning concern posted above. If the red cones aren't facing me, I feel like a dick.

[Mukkoo]

No wonder no one wants to tank if they see threads like this...

How about telling dps to actually attack the marked target or at least the same target as the other dps and stop spamming AOEs?
Or telling dps and healers to slow down a bit when they obviously got aggro so that the tank can grab it back?
Also one of the most frustrating things you can do to a tank: Knocking targets away when you pull aggro or run around like a headless chicken. It doesn't help the tank get enmity back. Instead run to the tank and let him take it off you. Just because you're a ranged dps or healer doesn't mean you can't dps or heal from close up to the tank.

It's a group effort, everyone has to play their role correctly. Don't just expect tanks to be supermen keeping aggro on everything no matter what. Just my two cents.

[Emmesty]

AGREED. I was put into 2 different parties and both had a very inexperienced tank. The tank for the first primal boss fight even ditched us halfway so 3 of us had to take it on. We got super close though. like if we had 3 more mins we coulda done it. Tanks study up please.

You're a couple days into a new game release and given that the first primal is 22ish... I've not had one party member death in a dungeon, does that mean I'm amazing, or maybe that my party carried me? Ponderous times....

Also as the gentleman above me stated, archers I'm looking at you. If you see your little enemy list go red dot, for the love of all that's holy stop spamming on that target, and put the tank between you and the mob, otherwise I have to drag the entire group through the party chasing you down. A certain someone on Siren should have died several times from being trigger happy on the pull then wanting to run away when it all went awry. Well that's what I get for inviting a dd to help speed their que time. I guess I'll just not invite a dd from now on and let them sit there watching the timer.