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    Stalkster's Avatar
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    Sir Stalkster
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50

    Healing Ultima is intense.

    Or so I assume, I only do heals for FC or if I'm bored of Tank/DPS.
    I'm not trying to start a flame thread but, between dodging and healing I can see it being alil uh hard I guess?
    But please understand 2 things.
    1:It's normal attacks are magical and hit about 1-1.1k on a Pld in shield oath. They can't be parryed or blocked. The Deflector beam or w/e it's called(green frontal attack) Hits for about 3k.
    2: It has pretty good aoe's that hit -everyone- so be prepared to aoe heal.

    Another thought during middle lazer/bomb dropping/dodging madness try to throw a cure on the tank or even more so Lustrate if your a sch. If your whm your probably gonna want a Brd for ballad.

    I was trying to knock this out today outside of FC/LS since not many on. It took 2DF's/6PF's 3-7attempts each. In all, 1 if not both tanks died atleast once. Out of about 6partys one of the healers where complaining 1 of 2 things.
    "The tanks needs to cycle CD's"
    Since the attacks are magic Pld has rampart -20%dmg 20sec's 90sec CD, Sentinel -40%dmg 10sec's 180sec CD. War has Inner beast -20%dmg 5sec's about 25sec CD, Vengeance -30%dmg 15sec's 120sec CD. And both get Convalescence. That's it not gonna be much up time.
    "Everyone needs to stop getting hit with aoe"
    Welp the aoe's hit everyone.

    Like I said not trying to start a flame healer/etc thread I'm just saying so healers kinda know what to expect.
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    Dragonfly Seksparade
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Tank damage depends on how many stacks the tank has. Tank swap at 3 stacks and there should be no issues with healing tanks.

    Final phase can be hectic, it becomes a DPS check rather than a healing check. Its quite similar to Demon wall in terms of - dps must kill the lazers fast or it can wipe the party. The faster lazers are killed, the easier it is to heal and the less likely you'll have deaths. Switcast medica 2 is a really big deal on this fight.
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    i noticed this as well.

    during the ifrit goes crazy with AOEs phase i found that 2 regens and a medic II worked really good for keeping the tank alive with double WHM setup.

    haven't tried it with a scholar though.
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    N'kilah Razhi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    The only real AoE that cannot be avoided or reduced is Tank Purge. Often times when healing is intense it's because people are getting hit by eruptions and Ifrit, getting hit by lasers, or suiciding into linked orbs. As for tanks, many of them I see not avoiding lasers, plumes, Ifrit, or end up standing in the wrong spot when bombs drop. Then comes Deflector Beam and they don't even have enough health to survive it.

    I find it helps to designate one person to the tanks and one for the rest of the raid. I usually stay close to the front so I'm never too far away from tanks; the white mage and Eos can handle the raid healing. Some tanks also tend to wait for too many stacks of the debuff before swapping, when it's perfecting doable at 3 stacks or even 2.
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    Benedicte Courcel
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    So healing this on my SCH today (through DF) I noticed a few things.
    - This is a very healer intensive fight in late phases
    - eruptions would 9/10 target at least 1 healer (no healing or only instant cast for around 10-15 seconds)
    - This fight actively discourages grouping for heals

    As I've only healed this through DF I'm sure that preformed groups only suffer healing issues in the final phase where there is laser dodging and constant room-wide AoE. For me, the intense healing started around Ifrit phase, as people in DF tend to get hit by either Ifrit or plumes while trying to dodge the other. overall though, I believe if players are avoiding what they can and mostly just getting hit by more unavoidable attacks, the only real intense healing area is the final phase.
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    WhoIsTheGuest's Avatar
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    Lunariel Crystal
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    Masamune
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Ultima Ballad is definitely very fun playing as a WHM. It kinda depends on your teammates too, as you are the one who have to make up for their mistakes by healing.

    But thus far, there's really only 1 problem that I haven't see any good solution without consciously preempt for it:
    In one of the DF run, the eruptions were chasing BOTH healers...ended up no one healing the tank and eventually resulted in a wipe.
    I wasn't prepared for that, so Benediction and Swiftcast already used-up prior to this stage.

    If doing it with FC, most likely won't have any problem as there's TeamSpeak. But DF-ing is unavoidable, so the only strategy I can imagine, is to consciously making sure that either Benediction or Swiftcast is available prior to eruption. In case both healers being chased by eruption, at least one healer can pull off a heal on tank.

    If anyone know of a better way please share it, thanks.
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    Krisstina Silverymoon
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by WhoIsTheGuest View Post
    If doing it with FC, most likely won't have any problem as there's TeamSpeak. But DF-ing is unavoidable, so the only strategy I can imagine, is to consciously making sure that either Benediction or Swiftcast is available prior to eruption. In case both healers being chased by eruption, at least one healer can pull off a heal on tank.

    If anyone know of a better way please share it, thanks.
    I was wondering if there is any chance to pull up some heal when dodging eruption. Seems u got about 1sec free to cast, if handled well~
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    Karnage Dragorian
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Krisstina View Post
    I was wondering if there is any chance to pull up some heal when dodging eruption. Seems u got about 1sec free to cast, if handled well~
    Only thing that helped us was the SCH(me), using Lustrate, if not, you wont get a chance to cast anything.
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    Tinks Fenrir
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by WhoIsTheGuest View Post
    But thus far, there's really only 1 problem that I haven't see any good solution without consciously preempt for it:
    In one of the DF run, the eruptions were chasing BOTH healers...ended up no one healing the tank and eventually resulted in a wipe.
    I wasn't prepared for that, so Benediction and Swiftcast already used-up prior to this stage.
    With 2 healers, in theory one of them should have lustrate, swiftcast, or benediction available between them. I've been in those parties where you can't rely on your other healer to get the job done, but this is one of those fights where you need both healers on the ball until everyone is dodging well. It might be that you need to macro swiftcast and discuss when you're using it with the other healer.

    My only other suggestion, is divine seal + regen. It might buy you enough time and you can do it while running. Last resort, eat the eruption, cure the tank, and let the other healer raise you if you die.
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    Elurra Maluta
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    Famfrit
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Eruptions is definitely the hardest part for me. Running when they target you, and running when the dps runs over you when it targets them. End result is the same, no heals on tank. I've also had problems getting interrupted for seemingly no reason. That is pretty frustrating.
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