New Job System Incoming!!! - But what does this mean??

[TheVedis]

They would not make us start from scratch that is for certain. However if they did make huge changes to how everything works I imagine they would let us spread our total accumulated SP/EXP over the new job's in a way we saw fit. For example if I had a Rank 50 MRD I could have a R50 WAR or whatever the new job system would entail. That would allow us to have our choice of what jobs we wanted when the new system arrives. I doubt it would go that far though, would it?

you do realize you missed the point of what was said

the armory isnt going anywhere, its not being replaced

all the old stuff we did is gonna stay as is, with a job system overlaying it(addition to, not in place of)

[Cairdeas]

I *seriously* hope we don't have to level jobs from scratch. There's enough grinding to do in this game already.



You have a very elastic idea of "dumb". You don't even talk about "tanks" in offline games, as the trinity is a characteristic of MMORPGs. FFXI is the only other online installment of Final Fantasy, ergo Dak Knights have never been tanks.

That isn't true. the Terminology is older then MMO's. so is the "Trinity" though in FF's its never been a true trinity. Its always a Mix of 6 roles.

Tank, DD, Status, Healer, Elemental, Suberter.

Which Magically is exactly what the first 6 jobs are as well.

War, Monk, Red Mage, White Mage, Black Mage, Thief.

Just depending on how many character slots you mixed them up and sometimes fit two of those 6 on one character.

Tank/DD, Healer/Status, Subverter/Elemental, Elemental/Status


Also Just about Every Final Fantasy not all but most, Have this ability called Cover. Its a neat ability. It makes one character jump in front of another and defend it. Much like a Tank would.

[Abriael]

That isn't true. the Terminology is older then MMO's. so is the "Trinity" though in FF's its never been a true trinity. Its always a Mix of 6 roles.

The terminology is older than MMOs because it was present in MUDS, that are nothing else than an early incarnation of MMOs. It has never been applied to offline games simply because roles (as you yourself stated in more words) are much more elastic there.

That's why you can't apply most single player concepts to MMORPGs. Roles are less elastic and depend only on a single player's will. You can make almost any character a "tank" in a single player game, and be content with it regardless of efficency, because the only thing dependant on that decision is your own enjoyment.
Roles in MMORPG are subject to quite a lot more restrictions, as stricter balance come in play.

But no worries, I can amend my statement if it makes you happy. Dark Knights have never been tanks in Final Fantasy MMORPGs.

[solracht]

But no worries, I can amend my statement if it makes you happy. Dark Knights have never been tanks in Final Fantasy MMORPGs.

Still technically wrong (at least when put against Paladins), unless you didn't care about efficiency.

[Zenaku]

I hope he going with Level up a class pass a level and unlock Class "A or B" not oh look you have a tree now pick which one you want to take. Even if he make it diff from other game it still be a tree system and a hybrid class system which i don't really enjoy. Allow players to play the class now but if they like a job you can unlock the follow jobs and be set to a role.

[solracht]

You made a dumb comment: "dark knights have never been tanks" and he proved you wrong.

He missed nothing. He didn't say that they should be in this game either.

[Cairdeas]

Hopefully the Job System is just Titles that have no level and if they do its Ranks of like 1-5 or 1-10 and thats it. Each rank giving you a trait native to that job.

[GabbaGabba]

Hopefully the Job System is just Titles that have no level and if they do its Ranks of like 1-5 or 1-10 and thats it. Each rank giving you a trait native to that job.

i think the job system is going to replace the physical rank system somehow. i think they should take more emphasis off class rank and move it more towards your job rank so that way everything cons to ur job level and having high class ranks just makes it easier to kill things around your job level.

[northernsky]

i think the job system is going to replace the physical rank system somehow. i think they should take more emphasis off class rank and move it more towards your job rank so that way everything cons to ur job level and having high class ranks just makes it easier to kill things around your job level.

Very well said.

Right now the Phys level is more or less a stat bonus to your weapon class. Basically a job system could improve this already existing system by adding abilities, traits and tradeoffs associated to each given job.

[Akumu]

Hopefully the Job System is just Titles that have no level and if they do its Ranks of like 1-5 or 1-10 and thats it. Each rank giving you a trait native to that job.

I hope the same. certain amount of class levels you get a quest that allows you to enhance your powers or just alot the points similar to a merit system. It would still be cool if once a job is maxed you have a title to go with it.

ex. Master Dragoon(max)