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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Most likely it'll be the addition of advanced classes. Scrapping what's already in place would mean a character wipe, which is something Yoshida has said he absolutely will not do.
    In FFXIV terms Classes are not Jobs. If it is a traditional Job System they wouldn't be advanced just jobs. I'm hoping its a mix of FFT and FF5 just stacked on top of the Armoury System where your skills are decided by you but you get bonuses for using specific ones for your currently equipped job.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    I'm so sick and tired of him throwing new random systems to us without telling everything >.>
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    whatever

    I hate the current system, strict each kind of weapon to one class, not a good idea from the beginning especially when you add more classes to the game, when you have Paladin and Dark Knight in the game then what class you will be if you equip a sword? will they make 3 kind of sword?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    whatever

    I hate the current system, strict each kind of weapon to one class, not a good idea from the beginning especially when you add more classes to the game, when you have Paladin and Dark Knight in the game then what class you will be if you equip a sword? will they make 3 kind of sword?
    Paladin doesn't have to use a Sword. It can use a Sword, A Polestaff, a Polearm, a Club, a Hammer. Even a Bow. Not to mention Shields.

    Jobs shouldn't be seperated by Weapon. Weapon Classes are (which is why its the Armoury System its a Weapon Class System) The Job system just fits on top and lets you play as a Paladin as a Lancer, Gladiator, Pugilist what ever you want. What ever system they use shouldn't limit what Weapon Class a Job can use or vis versa.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Paladin doesn't have to use a Sword. It can use a Sword, A Polestaff, a Polearm, a Club, a Hammer. Even a Bow. Not to mention Shields.

    Jobs shouldn't be seperated by Weapon. Weapon Classes are (which is why its the Armoury System its a Weapon Class System) The Job system just fits on top and lets you play as a Paladin as a Lancer, Gladiator, Pugilist what ever you want. What ever system they use shouldn't limit what Weapon Class a Job can use or vis versa.
    And this exactly why I want major changes to this weapon class system they have. They need to strip weapons back to learning weapon skill's only and have actual jobs for learning the skills, traits and abilities. That way you could easily be a PLD and still have a choice of weapons to use without it making huge changes to your job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    whatever

    I hate the current system, strict each kind of weapon to one class, not a good idea from the beginning especially when you add more classes to the game, when you have Paladin and Dark Knight in the game then what class you will be if you equip a sword? will they make 3 kind of sword?
    I feel your pain. I was troubled by the lack of a class that could dual-wield daggers, had high evasion, and could steal stuff.

    What were they called again?? Hmm.....
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    Abriael Rosen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    whatever

    I hate the current system, strict each kind of weapon to one class, not a good idea from the beginning especially when you add more classes to the game, when you have Paladin and Dark Knight in the game then what class you will be if you equip a sword? will they make 3 kind of sword?
    Two handed sword. Dark knights have never been tanks anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Two handed sword. Dark knights have never been tanks anyway.
    *Sigh* I wish people would stop pidgeon holing jobs into things without thinking.

    Dark Knights were some of the best tanks in the series PRE-FFXI.

    In FFT a Dark Knight could stand still with 4 guys wailing on him, Take all the damage they dealt, then turn around and strike one of them for all that damage, heal all the damage back to themselves and keep going.

    They were Drain Tanks.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    *Sigh* I wish people would stop pidgeon holing jobs into things without thinking.

    Dark Knights were some of the best tanks in the series PRE-FFXI.

    In FFT a Dark Knight could stand still with 4 guys wailing on him, Take all the damage they dealt, then turn around and strike one of them for all that damage, heal all the damage back to themselves and keep going.

    They were Drain Tanks.
    The little detail you're missing here is that we really don't need more tanks in this game. People playing gladiator are already having trouble finding a spot in NM groups in their own linkshell, and it'll be even worse with the 8-men restriction.

    Offline games don't really count, as the usage of the trinity is much more elastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    The little detail you're missing here is that we really don't need more tanks in this game. People playing gladiator are already having trouble finding a spot in NM groups in their own linkshell, and it'll be even worse with the 8-men restriction.

    Offline games don't really count, as the usage of the trinity is much more elastic.
    With the Job System me and Carpe have worked on you don't have to be a tank as a Gladiator,

    You can be a Thief, a Red Mage, a Blue Mage, a Dragoon, a Dark Knight, a Paladin, a Samurai, a Ninja, any Job that has use of a Sword.

    Jobs have always had access to more then one type of weapon in most of the Final Fantasy's. White Mage for example has had Hammers, Two Hand Hammers, Curled Staffs, Bo-Staffs, Knunchucks, Rackets, Shields, and in one case even Swords and Axes with the right set up.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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