The growing entitlement issues of the casuals

[TheVedis]

All of this crap needs to stop. There are not "hardcore" players and there no "casual" players. There are only players. What separates us is the amount of time that we put into the game. "I have more time to waste on a video game. I'm so hardcore!" No, you just have more time to waste. "I have a life so I guess I'm casual." No, you just have a very busy life. This the only separation and it's not even a big separation. All of this mindless fighting, from both sides, needs to stop. It's horrible...

some of us have tried to get this point across but people dont wanna listen


all that matters is how much time you have to play, if you dont got time to play, then dont punish those who do basicaly by trying to make everything quicker/easier to cope with your time deficiency.
those dubbed hardcore understand this
those dubbed casuals or who claim they are throw a fit at that line of thinking though so the arguement continues in light of the real truth

[Kilta_Firelotus]

thanks for proving my point, hello prime suspect #1

I proved nothing. I am by no means a "casual" player I hate labling like that. This is getting out of hand. Its a game for crying out loud people. Why is everyone stressing out over it. Its stupid, waste of time, waste of space, and only serve to seperate what lil community is in the game.

I was saying the truth nor was meaning it in a bad way. Stop acting like preshool children who fight over something so redundent as, 1 swing over 100 free ones.

You guys knew the game was going to dip more to be less time consuming, tanaka's words btw. And honestly if that was what makes you upset great, you just prooved youself in being an addict. Take a break from gaming spend time with friends or family or both. read books. Play card games, go for walks. There is no reason to fight about how a game is. It is childish.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

some of us have tried to get this point across but people dont wanna listen


all that matters is how much time you have to play, if you dont got time to play, then dont punish those who do basicaly by trying to make everything quicker/easier to cope with your time deficiency.
those dubbed hardcore understand this
those dubbed casuals or who claim they are throw a fit at that line of thinking though so the arguement continues in light of the real truth

wrong again... theved just walk away... all your doing is spouting lies. I read this thread in it entierty and NOTHING as to what you suggested is going on. its just a game stop worrying about what the "casual" as you claim are doing.

[TheVedis]

wrong again... theved just walk away... all your doing is spouting lies. I read this thread in it entierty and NOTHING as to what you suggested is going on. its just a game stop worrying about what the "casual" as you claim are doing.

Kilta is always right, everyone should listen to Kilta

sorry not gonna happen

why dont you drop it for a change, you got 2k posts ARGUING with everyone on everything you can find, and this is an issue in which half the posts in the thread are yours, i find that kinda funny

my point is valid, you just dont want to look at anyones opinions but your own cuz you know everything and everyone else is always wrong

[Dubont]

some of us have tried to get this point across but people dont wanna listen


all that matters is how much time you have to play, if you dont got time to play, then dont punish those who do basicaly by trying to make everything quicker/easier to cope with your time deficiency.
those dubbed hardcore understand this
those dubbed casuals or who claim they are throw a fit at that line of thinking though so the arguement continues in light of the real truth

Neither side should suffer. All players should have access to everything, but nothing should be handed to anyone. For example, in FFXI, everyone could get Sky access, but I still know a few who did not have it because they didn't want to put the time in the quests to actually get it. The same goes for Dream Dyna and Sea. Everyone should have access. Now, as far as day-pop NMs go, that is something that should not be here because not everyone would have access to it, due to time constraints. NO ONE should be punished by a game due to their real life activities.

[Mugiwara]

Kilta_Firelotus = Troll. ignore immediately. For a person who doesn't play this game you have a lot to say about it to people who actually play. Deleting just your post would erase half the pages of this thread. wow, what a good idea...

[Gracious]

The Thread Title is The Growing Entitlements of Casuals.... What exactly do they feel they are entitled to? Nothing but so called hard corers say how they are entitled it seems.

[TheVedis]

Neither side should suffer. All players should have access to everything, but nothing should be handed to anyone. For example, in FFXI, everyone could get Sky access, but I still know a few who did not have it because they didn't want to put the time in the quests to actually get it. The same goes for Dream Dyna and Sea. Everyone should have access. Now, as far as day-pop NMs go, that is something that should not be here because not everyone would have access to it, due to time constraints. NO ONE should be punished by a game due to their real life activities.

yeah, everyone does have access to everything, i dont think theres a game out there that really punishes anyone for the time they play, its all about how much time you can put into getting it.
If it takes 50 hours to get from point A to point B, it takes 50 hours, you can either play 3 days straight to get there, or play an hour a day for 50 days to get there.
The problem is alot of these self proclaimed casuals will tell you that it isnt fair that they cant access it as fast as someone else can. the content isnt accessible to them if they cant have it at the same level as someone else can(usualy because theres a quest or something on the side needed to do to access it)
if leveling itself is the big time sink to get there, then thats another issue altogether, but even then its all a matter of how long it takes you to level to get there.

The Nm thing you mention, yeah now THAT was annoying, i play alot, anyone who knows me knows this, i play more then even some of your worst addicts do, and even i thought the 24-36 hour spawns were rediculous. that is where i draw the line on activities.
a time sink to gain access to something is one thing
something which forces you to sit around for hours at a time waiting for it to happen is something entirely different, especialy when it involves massive competing to do so.

[TheVedis]

The Thread Title is The Growing Entitlements of Casuals.... What exactly do they feel they are entitled to? Nothing but so called hard corers say how they are entitled it seems.

you would think that, but you should see some of the wild claims of the so called casuals in this thread

[Gracious]

you would think that, but you should see some of the wild claims of the so called casuals in this thread

May be more productive to start a thread called " This is what Hard corer's want" and one for "This is what casuals want" maybe. In here seems fruitles to be honest.