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    Kazimir's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by solracht View Post
    Even World of Warcraft's Legendary example that you keep on bringing up works against you: the guilds that obtained said items past the Burning Crusade did not have to spend obscene amounts of time playing: they had to play better. The raid lockouts were the same for everyone.
    Yeah, past Burning Crusade, when the complaints about WoW increased 100 fold.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    the gym analogy wouldnt work like that

    lets look at how it really works

    Both have access to all the equiptment, but the casuals are complaining they arent as in shape or fit, and cant lift as much as hardcores, and think that their 1 hour a week should let them bench 300 like the hardcores can.

    This^

    Quote Originally Posted by Poipori View Post
    No, many of the more casual players are NOT asking for EASY, spoon-feeding content, they just don't want stupid time-wasting content like camping NMs, we don't mind working a very very small steps towards the main goal each time we play, we don't mind getting the best item much much slower(some might not even get it before that best gear becomes obsolete)

    What we don't want is content which requires us to waste our precious playing time in camping, doing nothing, WAITING for pop.
    Hell I don't want to sit around wasting my time camping either, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be anything that rewards hardcores for their time playing.

    Just to clarify I'm not really what I would call a hardcore player. I'm just someone who's been a hardcore player before and I know what it takes to satisfy that player base. I also know when it comes right down to it the casuals won't really care about it in the end. They certainly didn't care about not having a relic weapon in XI.
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    Last edited by Kazimir; 04-14-2011 at 12:02 AM.