The growing entitlement issues of the casuals

[Xeno]

First things first, Casuals do not = hardcore players. Even Yoshi agrees.

I feel that it’s ideal that players decide on the play style.

So what's the deal? Why is it that casual players feel that they should have the same awesome gear that the hardcore players have? This is absolutely beyond me. The more effort you put into something the greater the reward.

[Mugiwara]

agreed. a man should have nothing but what he strives for...

[Corrderio]

I don't think anyone is trying to argue people with less time should get the same rewards. It's a matter on how the endgame system should be.

[Kazimir]

Well, to be fair they were promised a casual-friendly game that some may have translated as meaning they were going to have the same benefits as hardcore players. The game has also been on easy-mode since release and things just keep being put in to make it easier and casual-friendly so don't be shocked if they do in fact get everything hardcore players get. It'll likely eventually be as casual-friendly as WoW has been for a while now. Those are the type of players MMO's are after these days.

I certainly wouldn't expect to see any difficult to get relic weapons or rare drops (D-ring/ridill anyone?) in this game.

[Verecund]

Both should have awesome gear.


But one's should be shinier than the other

[Randis]

Please define hardcore and casual, cos i get the feeling that your thread is inspired by the recent NM discussion where everyone who was against 24 nm pop was flamed by a some camping fetish LS.

[TheVedis]

Because its not fair that someone works 10 times harder then me and has more stuff

I shouldnt have to work for my gear


(please note im a hardcore, probly hardcore even by hardcore standards, but the above is literaly what i see)

[zaviermhigo]

MMOs weren't really about hardcore gamers, they were about people who wanted to nerd out. The people who feel entitled have almost no good nerd interests, they just spam. We need to put the nerd back into gaming, this isn't a joke.

[Xeno]

Please define hardcore and casual, cos i get the feeling that your thread is inspired by the recent NM discussion where everyone who was against 24 nm pop was flamed by a some camping fetish LS.

Casual=people who want to have the best gear in game but only have 1 hour to play a week/wish they had time to get skill
Hardcore=people who have a lot of free time so they actually earn the best gear in the game/are the most skilled

and that thread was more like the straw that broke the camel's back.

[Alicia_WM]

Please define hardcore and casual, cos i get the feeling that your thread is inspired by the recent NM discussion where everyone who was against 24 nm pop was flamed by a some camping fetish LS.

Casual: People who realize that this and other games are just that - games. They typically are pursuing a college degree, or otherwise working a full time job. These people want to log on and just have some fun.

Hardcore: People who have no real life obligations, and therefore view the game as most casual players would real life. They think the game matters, and so want to be better than everyone in the virtual world because they are neckbeards in real life.