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  1. #61
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    Helzbelz's Avatar
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    Helzbelz Fireban
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    I am going to agree with the OP too. The game is trying to cater towards NON MMO gamers in an attempt to get them to play an MMO. If you have 100 people standing around you all looking to do the same instance Why do you need to use the DF? Seriously if conversing with other people is that stressful to you maybe you need to stick to single player games. Hell I sent a person packing that wants an action packed FPS game and was not happy with FF and wanted FF to be design around what he wanted. MMOs today are becoming too mainstreamed just to make everyone happy, however in the end they are making no one happy then finding out they need to go F2P just to have some sort of player base because people will play for free. However Free players that will not spend a dime on the game will not be supporting development going forward because the publisher is not making money.
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  2. #62
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    I'm neither going to agree or disagree with OP at the moment. I would like to say that this probably isn't a good time to be discussing the issues you brought up. I’m not just saying that just because SE currently has their hands full with more important issues and won’t see it right away. With so much toxicity in the forums right now, SE might assume that a number of the contributors to this thread aren’t thinking objectively. The negative feedback might get dismissed as post launch frustration QQ. If you really care about these issues and want to be heard, you might want to wait for the smoke to clear.
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  3. #63
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    Zanfire Leoz
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    1.23 was on a roll, then they threw so much out. The combat being a big one, which i was loving, then i saw these dull stats on all the gear, then the removal of NMs and elemental wheel and "trash" monster design (removing the OPTION to camp grind if i please), then basically every other problem you mentioned. It hurts me because i like the game, but its showing its problems, ones that might be small, but will send it to an early grave.

    come on SE, fix the servers, then add some depth back into your game.
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  4. #64
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    I find people who abuse and misuse the word "accomplishment" like the person I quoted in the context of minor parts of a game to be silly.
    Round-abouting a lv80 pig with true sight only to see the pretty lake on the other side of the brush =/= accomplishment.
    ac·com·plish·ment/əˈkämpliSHmənt/

    Noun:
    1.Something that has been achieved successfully
    2.The successful achievement of a task

    Don't see anything about minor tasks. I'm sorry i get a sense of accomplishment from something you don't, but you honestly don't have any room to ridicule outside your own opinion on what constitutes for it's proper use.

    To me, there is nothing more rewarding than getting somewhere new, especially in spite of opposition.
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  5. #65
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    Rando Al'thor
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    Ill play this game for a month at the very least. Then its up to this games ability to keep things fun and exciting and no other games coming out doing the same thing better. I have been playing a pvp game for the past 3 years and wanted to try a pve centric game again. If this game can deliver engaging and hard endgame content(instances/crafting/open world bosses) then awesome as I have been a lover of all things final fantasy since I was 12 and picked up 3/6 for the first time. If not then there are other games coming out that say they can(not saying they will deliver). One more thing that worries me is the community or lack there of, and only time will alleviate those worries.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoSalad View Post
    incessant voice acting can also be a bore, and that you might end up reading through the text and spacebaring through the voiced dialogue.
    That's actually true, since most people read faster than VOs play back. I was thinking more of a "TL : DR" version for regular quests. One or two sentences of VO that tell you the gist of what's going on, and if you wish to know more, you can read the quest text as well.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riposte View Post
    Not so. If you didn't see my clear intent in wanting these things resolved in the future, then you read my post wrong. I'm very invested in this game and want to see it improved. I want to like it, as I've followed it for more than 3 years now. Moreover, I had a great experience with Phase 3 beta, where some of these issues were not necessarily problematic.



    If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. Easy, huh? Personally, I have a very good reason for vocalizing my problems: I want the dev teams to hear it and bolster those who would agree so the message is louder.See the thing about this whole defense mechanism over "opinions" is that you never see anyone bring it up for an opinion they agree with. Nor do people go into every thread and say "Hey! Guys! You are saying opinions!" It is as meaningful to walk into a coffee shop and remind people they are drinking coffee - there is no point being made. The truth is this is just a sneaky way to tell someone to stop talking because you don't like what they are saying. Under this logic, opinions are useless and not to be trusted (and certainly not to be examined) - unless, of course, they are reconfirming what someone already believes, then they are valid and worthwhile. One should not be so proud to have found an excuse to evade reasoned point of views they won't meet head on.

    Of course what I'm saying is "just" an opinion. If we are going to state the obvious, why don't we also mention that you thinking what I've said isn't more important than server issues is also an opinion. I'm making a judgment call: server problems for a week or two now is not as harmful as poor design choices shaping the game for years to come (such as there being very weak server communities).

    Anyway, I just wanted to quickly address that off-topic illogical argument as it has a habit to pop up everywhere on the internet. I'll post more thoughts on other replies later.

    The reason I used the 'Opinion' defense is because you are voicing your opinion and claiming they are issues the game needs to resolve. The points you made are relative to you and the people that agree with you, but that does not make them issues that need to be resolved by the development team. In the perspective of other players, the 'issues' you point out may not be 'issues' to them.

    With that said, should the development team focus on 'your issues with game', or, some other player who has his own view on what the 'issues' of the game are? You say the abilities are lack luster, but, a different player might think they great. You say gear is boring, but, a different player might enjoy collecting and have fun with gear. There are 2 sides to every coin.

    As stated previously, there are things I don't like about the game, but, these are not issues the dev team needs to fix. You are being quite pretentious in the simple act of claiming that your opinion needs to be heard, addressed, and have things changed by the dev team. You said it yourself, you want to like the game, but the game is not being made into something you enjoy, that does not mean the game has to be tweaked to address your wants.

    There are a lot of people that agree with your points, there are a lot of people that disagree with your points, who is the dev team to cater to?
    If you cannot find yourself liking the game because of the direction it is going in, that is o.k, yet, you claim it is an issue that needs to be fixed because you don't like the direction the game is going, that is my biggest gripe with your entire post.
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  8. #68
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    OP,

    Quests are too easy because Western Civilization wants things handed to them. This is the game they want to cater to the masses and it will cater well. They just need to deliver more content to feed, which I have confidence they will. This game has been fun and enjoyable. We can expect more difficult things in the future...with any game.
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  9. #69
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    Vergil Savickas
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    The games been made and about to release. I keep laughing at threads like this, and the threads that say the game isnt ready. The battle system is set in stone. There won't ever be a "3.0" with all the money invested in "2.0" to work. If you don;t like it don't play it. The DEVS are happy with how it turned out. If you want all these nifty features and an OP game, spend millions on creating your own mmorpg. until then keep quiet and either play or dont play They aren;t going to rework the game a third time to make you happy. beta is over, suggestions and such are pretty much out the window at this point.
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  10. #70
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    Danuvue Lemaign
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evandis View Post
    Actually, no, not new. Just smart enough to realize that it hasn't even been a week.
    Correct, it hasn't even been a week and most of the gear has been datamined and is on database style websites like ZAM and so on. We know that the gear is boring.
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