Materia System

[Duelle]

And after all is said and done, who gives a rat's ass about who makes money in a game where money is over-flowing out of everyone's pocket? They screwed the pooch real bad the moment they made money appear out of nowhere in copious amounts with just leves. Did they learn nothing out of the common MMO economy with "Trash Loot" compared to FFXI's "Everything is useful and money is not given for free everywhere"?

They learned the fact that those who found farming boring and could not sit around for hours for NMs to pop were screwed out of a source of income in XI. I like the fact leves serve their purpose in giving me income (granted, every 24 hours would be better than every 36). And for the record, no I'm not swimming in gil.

[Lionix]

They learned the fact that those who found farming boring and could not sit around for hours for NMs to pop were screwed out of a source of income in XI. I like the fact leves serve their purpose in giving me income (granted, every 24 hours would be better than every 36). And for the record, no I'm not swimming in gil.

Well it would be illogical for me to try to argue with your personal experiences.

Though you have to admit that quite honestly yours seems a rather instanced case. (The money subject, I mean, not the "fun" subject. I wouldn't dare argue about such a relative thing, you have your right to that one.)

[Firon]

They learned the fact that those who found farming boring and could not sit around for hours for NMs to pop were screwed out of a source of income in XI. I like the fact leves serve their purpose in giving me income (granted, every 24 hours would be better than every 36). And for the record, no I'm not swimming in gil.

No one forced you to farm in XI tho to make money nor craft it was all up to you the player

[ZephyrAM]

No one forced you to farm in XI tho to make money nor craft it was all up to you the player

I think, though, that the point is everyone in XIV can make money in different ways, depending on how they choose to do it. They don't have to just take part in the ridiculous NM farming that existed there in order to actively participate in the buying/selling of the economy.

There should never just be one way to do much of anything in a good MMO, and the fact that crafting, gathering, 'and' combat classes can all perform this aspect in their own different way is a good thing.

[Duelle]

I think, though, that the point is everyone in XIV can make money in different ways, depending on how they choose to do it. They don't have to just take part in the ridiculous NM farming that existed there in order to actively participate in the buying/selling of the economy.

There should never just be one way to do much of anything in a good MMO, and the fact that crafting, gathering, 'and' combat classes can all perform this aspect in their own different way is a good thing.

This.

XI's issue was that outside of farming mobs for hours, crafting for hours to skill up then pray your synth is an HQ, staying around an area waiting for NMs to pop and camping the crafting guild shops to buy out their inventory to resell said inventory in the AH at higher prices, there wasn't much one could do to earn money. The mistake with leves is that they were semi-sold as a focus point of the game, whereas I see it as a tiny part of a much bigger world. Not to mention it is backed up by game lore, for whatever that is worth.