Materia System

[Wynn]

Oh come on, don't be that dense. What, they paid 12k in mats cost to make a sword they'd sell for 120k if it DIDN'T have the potential to be materia?

Fail. Startup costs are NOTHING.

I'm not being dense, it is a very valid point. And one you don't have a counter argument for which is why you are now calling me dense instead.

Any crafter charging 120k for an item that cost 12k to make needs to be shot. I think we can both agree with that. But you are assuming all crafters would do such a thing, which isn't true. Free markets ensure people like that never make a profit.

[Peregrine]

I'm not being dense, it is a very valid point. And one you don't have a counter argument for which is why you are now calling me dense instead.

Any crafter charging 120k for an item that cost 12k to make needs to be shot. I think we can both agree with that. But you are assuming all crafters would do such a thing, which isn't true. Free markets ensure people like that never make a profit.

Well you're not a very good crafter then because I sell even the useless low rank crap for 4 times what I scrapped and slaped together. It'll be even worse when crafters see you coming a mile away, looking for gear to turn into materia.

Oh you'll pay for it alright. You'll pay for the cost it would have been if you wanted it for a weapon, and you WILL pay for the cost of it if you want to turn it into materia.

You'll be paying for both, actually. Out the ass.

[Amineri]

I'm not being dense, it is a very valid point. And one you don't have a counter argument for which is why you are now calling me dense instead.

Any crafter charging 120k for an item that cost 12k to make needs to be shot. I think we can both agree with that. But you are assuming all crafters would do such a thing, which isn't true. Free markets ensure people like that never make a profit.

I'd like to point out that one reason such large markups exist and continue to exist is because the only cost to the seller isn't the materials. There is also the limited retainer bazaar space, which creates an opportunity cost. This is a virtual cost, but real nonetheless.

Internal reasoning as follows:
"I only have 20 retainer bazaar slots to sell things with. Therefore, my selling something in a bazaar slot for low profit means that I can't sell something else with high profit. So, even if I list a low cost item, I'm still going to add a fixed markup cost since I couldn't use that bazaar slot for a higher end item."

It stands because there isn't anyone willing to take a smaller profit margin on those items to compete with said seller. It's the same principle as to why the consumer pays for the shelf space in a grocery store.

The more items there are available, and with the number of bazaar slots remaining fixed, the greater the value of a bazaar slot becomes. So, with the addition of (presumably) a wide array of materia and materia-enhanced items, the cost of a bazaar slot goes up another delta. Expect this to result in ALL items getting more expensive.