Materia System

[Rowyne]

This new 'Materia' system is sounding more and more like a hybrid between WoW's enchanting and gem socketing systems.

It's also going to encourage a little trick done in WoW to skillup two professions at once.

One common profession combination is Tailoring and Enchanting. You use your tailoring to create pieces of gear that can be disenchanted (getting tailoring skillups). You then disenchant the gear (which destroys it and extracts enchanting materials). You then take your new enchanting materials and enchant your good gear with it (getting enchanting skillups).

If this is more of the intent, to make the more common gear able to be broken down into materia, it makes perfect sense. However, the whole affinity aspect (meaning I have to wear the stuff) still seems a little wonky.

[Physic]

This new 'Materia' system is sounding more and more like a hybrid between WoW's enchanting and gem socketing systems.

It's also going to encourage a little trick done in WoW to skillup two professions at once.

One common profession combination is Tailoring and Enchanting. You use your tailoring to create pieces of gear that can be disenchanted (getting tailoring skillups). You then disenchant the gear (which destroys it and extracts enchanting materials). You then take your new enchanting materials and enchant your good gear with it (getting enchanting skillups).

If this is more of the intent, to make the more common gear able to be broken down into materia, it makes perfect sense. However, the whole affinity aspect (meaning I have to wear the stuff) still seems a little wonky.

didnt play wow, but it sounds like its intent is different, this seems to be more aimed at making customized gear, there probably wont be much reason to make gear, soley to destroy it. not en mass anyhow.

Its probably more like a item destruction mechanic, with a reverse incentive, instead of your gear simply being destroyed, you destroy it yourself for a gamble, it takes items out of the reselling market, and encourages a small amount of buying of the same level gear.
You got a crab bow+3 with +4 attack, its been fully attached for awhile, you find a deal on a crab bow+3, or you make one yourself, buy a new one and gamble your old one. but this will probably happen fairly rarely.

Voluntary item wear/destruction.

[Griss]

didnt play wow, but it sounds like its intent is different, this seems to be more aimed at making customized gear, there probably wont be much reason to make gear, soley to destroy it. not en mass anyhow.

Its probably more like a item destruction mechanic, with a reverse incentive, instead of your gear simply being destroyed, you destroy it yourself for a gamble, it takes items out of the reselling market, and encourages a small amount of buying of the same level gear.
You got a crab bow+3 with +4 attack, its been fully attached for awhile, you find a deal on a crab bow+3, or you make one yourself, buy a new one and gamble your old one. but this will probably happen fairly rarely.

Voluntary item wear/destruction.

that's exactly how its sounding. will be interesting to see if this gives the over saturation of items a nice big drain plug and revitalizes some markets.

[Cairdeas]

This new 'Materia' system is sounding more and more like a hybrid between WoW's enchanting and gem socketing systems.

It's also going to encourage a little trick done in WoW to skillup two professions at once.

One common profession combination is Tailoring and Enchanting. You use your tailoring to create pieces of gear that can be disenchanted (getting tailoring skillups). You then disenchant the gear (which destroys it and extracts enchanting materials). You then take your new enchanting materials and enchant your good gear with it (getting enchanting skillups).

If this is more of the intent, to make the more common gear able to be broken down into materia, it makes perfect sense. However, the whole affinity aspect (meaning I have to wear the stuff) still seems a little wonky.

You do know FF7 came before Diablo II which is where Blizzards socketing system came from and IIRC the DII team even said they came up with the idea from FF7.

[Rowyne]

You do know FF7 came before Diablo II which is where Blizzards socketing system came from and IIRC the DII team even said they came up with the idea from FF7.

Yes, I am aware of that. I am a 36-year-old old-school gamer. I fell in love with the Final Fantasy series when I first played FFVI (III-US) back on the SNES in 1994. It remains my favorite of the series, to this day.

I know the gaming timeline.

That doesn't change the fact that the new 'Materia' system sounds more like, what I said, a hybrid of WoW's enchanting and gem socketing system than FFVII's Materia system.

Shall I reiterate why it shouldn't use the name?

[Cairdeas]

Yes, I am aware of that. I am a 36-year-old old-school gamer. I fell in love with the Final Fantasy series when I first played FFVI (III-US) back on the SNES in 1994. It remains my favorite of the series, to this day.

I know the gaming timeline.

That doesn't change the fact that the new 'Materia' system sounds more like, what I said, a hybrid of WoW's enchanting and gem socketing system than FFVII's Materia system.

Shall I reiterate why it shouldn't use the name?

Sure and I'll reiterate why they should?

Materia is a "Growth System" And Materia Grows using AP once you max the AP it becomes catalytic. In VII this was automatic and a new stone was "Born" in XIV you have to force the stone to be born by processing the weapon it grew on.

[Rowyne]

XIV you have to force the stone to be born by processing the weapon it grew on.

By destroying the gear (which didn't happen in FFVII, IIRC). ie, disenchanting.

didnt play wow, but it sounds like its intent is different, this seems to be more aimed at making customized gear, there probably wont be much reason to make gear, soley to destroy it. not en mass anyhow.

No, I don't think that's the intent, but it may be the result. Even worse, as some are predicting, it may become a new form of grinding (make gear, wear it for affinity, destroy and harvest for socketing materials).

[Mack]

Seriously who the $@#! cares where the idea came from?

[Bled]

By destroying the gear (which didn't happen in FFVII, IIRC). ie, disenchanting.

The main premise of Materia is the same, where it comes from and certain subtleties are different. Again i will use the word "magic" that is found in every game these days, the term usually means the same thing, however where the magic comes from and other subtleties are different from game to game. I really don't see you having any logical grounds to dispute the name other than "its in FF7, and that is where it belongs". The term Materia is not tied down to just FF7 so i don't see the point of arguing this any further.

Again just because one game uses a term and creates a deep back ground story behind it, dose not mean the word is struck from gaming terminology libraries; if the word fits use it.

[Corrderio]

Shall I reiterate why it shouldn't use the name?

To appeal to fanboys.