Materia System

[Elexia]

Mostly because anything that requires any form of work, no matter how light or heavy the load people call a grind.

[TheVedis]

Mostly because anything that requires any form of work, no matter how light or heavy the load people call a grind.

you nailed it right on the head

people want easy free stuff
they dont wanna work for it

[KumaAkuma]

you nailed it right on the head

people want easy free stuff
they dont wanna work for it

If there actually is an "it", instead of a mirage of an "it", then I would work for "it".

[Quanta]

you nailed it right on the head

people want easy free stuff
they dont wanna work for it

It's more like people want to do things that they find interesting. Mindlessly killing the same mobs over and over again so that your sword wubs you wots sounds about as exciting as entering data into a spreadsheet.

[TheVedis]

It's more like people want to do things that they find interesting. Mindlessly killing the same mobs over and over again so that your sword wubs you wots sounds about as exciting as entering data into a spreadsheet.

yet mindlessly doing the same dungeon over and over again is acceptable(according to everyone pointing out the fun in certain other games)

its a circular arguement

[Quanta]

yet mindlessly doing the same dungeon over and over again is acceptable(according to everyone pointing out the fun in certain other games)

It's not, actually. It's just as shallow and repetitive. Still, a dungeon run is slightly more interesting than straight killing, if for no other reason than to see in-game NPCs ham it up boasting about their evil plans before they try and destroy you.

On a related note, SE should get Norio Wakamoto to voice every villain. It'd be epic.

[TheVedis]

It's not, actually. It's just as shallow and repetitive. Still, a dungeon run is slightly more interesting than straight killing, if for no other reason than to see in-game NPCs ham it up boasting about their evil plans before they try and destroy you.

On a related note, SE should get Norio Wakamoto to voice every villain. It'd be epic.

and in the end thats all MMOs are
every MMo is just a grind in one form or another

yet it still gets brung up as something that people really dont like about every MMO
yet they keep playing them

[Quanta]

and in the end thats all MMOs are
every MMo is just a grind in one form or another

yet it still gets brung up as something that people really dont like about every MMO
yet they keep playing them

I think MMO players are secretly hoping that the companies making them will get a clue and make an MMO that doesn't utterly depend on drawing out a 30-hour gaming experience over 9000 hours in order to maximize earnings on subscriptions.