Materia System

[Jovy]

I dont know how i feel about turning my weapon into materia. I wanna keep my weapons and or armors. Now how about attaching an empty materia stone and letting it fill with attachment points from what you wear. You can only get one materia per armor u wear but u can trade it to someone else and they can make materia. Or can we know if the items gets destroyed or not when it gets converted?

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

I don't know, I think its lame that you have to convert the gear. People work hard to get their gear, and what happens when we are all decked out in the job/class specific gear we are expecting? Hopefully they make those quests repeatable... and hope they are not like AF in ffxi...

Now I will have to go buy a bunch of NQ gear to run around in and hope for good materia to augment my HQ gear which I don't want to lose. I know its a good time sink, but its backwards... at least it sounds backwards, we will see how it works.

I wouldn't say that, sounds to me like there will be different weapons and gear sets much like the "Trial weapons" in FFXI and each piece will be trained for a particular type of materia.

[Cyan]

Wow..Excellent and potentially one of the most interesting ideas I have ever seen, and people still find some way to start complaining about it. I missed the point where it said that the weapons/armor would automatically be turned into materia. I'm sure it -should- be fairly obvious that it is optional, because it not being optional would be absurd for anyone to do. I for one welcome our new rob- er..the new information, and with that, I would just like to say MOAAAAAR!


tl;dr Quit yer bitchin.

[Duelle]

If they were going to re-use a term. They could re-use Magicite as it has been used in multiple games now.

Seconded. I know these are desperate times, but appealing to the FFVII fans leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[Jovy]

Its nice to know that when the devs ask for opinions and feedback from us i can get a "quit your bitching from you". All i was saying is if i have harle gear i would hate to convert it to materia and then get another harle to attach the materia to. I never said it would automatically happen. Yes its option duh i just went around it another way. Nice way to contibute Cyan.

[Malakhim]

Seconded. I know these are desperate times, but appealing to the FFVII fans leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

And how is appealing to the FFVI fans any different?

[ZephyrAM]

Seconded. I know these are desperate times, but appealing to the FFVII fans leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

But Magicite wasn't as awesome of stuff .

Honestly, I don't care that the terms come from VII, or VI, or any other FF game, it only matters that the Materia system previously created was a great thing.

However! If this system they're putting into XIV creates nothing more then little slottable stat boosts, then yes, they might as well call it the Magicite system, and in fact it would be more appropriate. Here's hoping, however, that it's not quite as simple as that.

[Peregrine]

I don't know, I think its lame that you have to convert the gear. People work hard to get their gear, and what happens when we are all decked out in the job/class specific gear we are expecting? Hopefully they make those quests repeatable... and hope they are not like AF in ffxi...

Now I will have to go buy a bunch of NQ gear to run around in and hope for good materia to augment my HQ gear which I don't want to lose. I know its a good time sink, but its backwards... at least it sounds backwards, we will see how it works.

Yeah it is a design flaw that would need addressed. The system would be counter-Matsui's battle emphasis to rewardd effort and innovations if it rewarded people for wearing NQ verions of gear they're farming materia with instead of the gear they plan on putting that materia into.

I want to see where the difference between a Jade Crook+3 and a Jade crook actually matters, but if I want Jade Crook materia for my Jade Crook+3 I'd never end up using my Jade Crook+3 for anything I did, or I'd have to go mindlessly attach staves to farm materia. Boring.

Jobs that have also already hit 50 will be hard-pressed to get attached to gear without big content updates. I repair my jade crook and mage armor about once a month now.

Some potential solutions:
Maybe pick the weapon you're attaching to, and not need to be on that job to be doing it? So I could buy four or five Jade Crooks and chew on them, while still using my Jade Crook+3 for everything I do on CON. Or I could chew on Jade crooks while I"m on lancer--it would't necessarily have to be a lance.

A system where you're encouraged to equip consumables is a system that's counter-Final Fantasy and counter Matsui's battle overhaul changes, and I don't want to see a situation where players are forced to either perform well or materia-get. Certain players will demand performance, certain players will demand materia-get, and the two will hate each other and make fun of each other. It'd be NQ elemental staves all over again.

Short version: It might be best to be able to choose what primary you are attaching to , independent of the weapon you're actually using.

[Focant]

Well by using up the armor or weapon upon making the materia you prevent a sort of endless supply coming from a single piece. It creates a sort of surplus armor sink removing armor from the game and markets. The materia itself is also erased when taking it out so there's always a need for new base armors if the goal is to make materia. It keeps things from bunching up and a surplus forming, since there's an armor limiting factor as far as just materia creation goes.

Obviously some balancing needs to be put in place but I believe that's the general idea behind it. Just my understanding of it though.

[Cyan]

Its nice to know that when the devs ask for opinions and feedback from us i can get a "quit your bitching from you". All i was saying is if i have harle gear i would hate to convert it to materia and then get another harle to attach the materia to. I never said it would automatically happen. Yes its option duh i just went around it another way. Nice way to contibute Cyan.

My apologies, I was actually refering to you in the second part of my post. The part where you assumed you would have to convert it. You were complaining about not being able to keep your gear. The dev post says "Will be able to convert", which means, you have the option to. No where does it say you HAVE to convert your gear. You can just go buy the materia if you dont feel like converting your own. As far as I can tell, my contribution was more informational than yours, because you have no reading comprehension skills. My statement still stands.