New NMs

[Randis]

If you guys see camping for 24h pops as a fun endgame... i feel sorry for you.

[Moth]

Yes because revolving my schedule around a game is a real good idea...

Have you ever played a real MMO? They pretty much envelop your life.

[Kazimir]

Yes because revolving my schedule around a game is a real good idea...

That's a choice you make. Dumb people revolve their schedules around a game. Develop some self control.

Regardless, a lot of the points about camping people are making in this thread are moot. They can make them spawn in random areas with long windows so people don't camp them. You just run there when they pop.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Casual players like that have a their own place, and those are offline games. If they are not committed then they should not be playing MMOs.

sorry but... 24 hr nm are for as the japanese called them NEETs.

honestly you guys get off on limiting gameplay or players... ffxiv isn't gonna have ppl play if content is so limiting.

this is the first mmo where ppl wanted it "harder" and "time consuming"

sorry even if I play 12+ hrs a day don't mean ima want to sit and wait for nms.
heck took me 4 years to get bounding boots. Missed alot of parties cuz of that.

[Scarface]

The HEAT of endgame is who has a better bot program or who can sit there waiting for hours on end for an attempt to fight something? Why not instead focus on making the mob pop (you can keep a longer cooldown to repop) with the encounter itself being more difficult than getting the claim? Nothing makes the it "harder" or "more fun" to sit there waiting on pops with the chance of not even getting it.

No one is saying not to make them hard....but eventually they WONT be hard once you kill it 5 times over...Hence why you need some type of restricting second layer...IE: 24hr spawns, random pops in different maps, etc...

No one is arguing on the difficulty, you just need to make sure that you add something else other than that. Dodore was hard, for a week...lol.

[Keftenk]

Agreed, if its going to be a rare pop, make it random as all hell, so you can't camp it.

Don't fool yourselves. People will still camp it.

[Corrderio]

That's a choice you make. Dumb people revolve their schedules around a game. Develop some self control.

It was sarcasam.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I would like 24 up to 48 Hours NM's. and also a HQ NM with a Spam up to 1 or 2 Weeks?

Its some difficulty i really would like, beside really rare Items it will make a LS stronger due the competition they will have. If people say it was bad in FFXI, tell me why you always had competition if they were bad?!...

But at this point i believe they will be normal NM's like the current ones. Dont forget we are at the moment at a Rank50 Cap.. so there is no Point in adding the "Big Shit" yet.

the fact it was 24 hr spawns. Which most of the time were around 12am-6am eastern US time. sorry im not staying up that late on a game for a digital item that when I log off has no meaning I got sick befor hunting black belt and brown belt. Not again thanks.

[Scarface]

People will camp it, LS will have people in all zones looking for it.. You need to make it hard+rare spawn / restriction to amount of times you can do it (Odin is a great example).

[Randis]

Have you ever played a real MMO? They pretty much envelop your life.

What are you a WOW vegetable?
There is a HUGE difference between a 'skilled and dedicated gamer" and someone who does not have enough self-control and gets addicted to some MMO, or simply escapes his shitty RL to play a game.
I know people who were too busy to dump out, they shat them self infront of their screen....