New NMs

[Poipori]

I think you misunderstand.
Most people are not saying " game should be for casual not hardcore".
What people are saying is the mechanic to have a NM pop every 24h giving only the people who log in at that time access to it is a poor mechanic and not fun.It has nothing to do with the casual vs hardcore debate, i dont really see the point.
Rare gear with multiple things to do to complete it (relics) or super mega hard instances ever with low drop rate and incredible good items is better and more fun than waiting for a HNM spawn .That is the bottom line for me.

spot on, nobody is asking for 1hp nm or some easy shit, people just don't want mindless crap like HNM camping.

[Visch]

spot on, nobody is asking for 1hp nm or some easy shit, people just don't want mindless crap like HNM camping.

They want instances and no competition that drop 4 of the same thing so everyone can have it in 3 months.

[Poipori]

They want instances and no competition that drop 4 of the same thing so everyone can have it in 3 months.

so you're implying that the only way to have competition is through HNM camping? lol

[Eekiki]

They want instances and no competition that drop 4 of the same thing so everyone can have it in 3 months.

Whether everyone gets it in 3 months or 3 years, eventually everyone that wants one will have one. It'll all be just as meaningless when SE shuts the servers down.

[Zkieve]

They want instances and no competition that drop 4 of the same thing so everyone can have it in 3 months.

no, we are asking for different degrees of rare items, and instead of 24h pop nms , relic type of rarity.
To be completely honest i would not cared if they put 24h nms , because i would not do them anyways, i cant commit that much time like i used to.But i understand why people do not want them.

[Peregrine]

To be completely honest i would not cared if they put 24h nms , because i would not do them anyways, i cant commit that much time like i used to.But i understand why people do not want them.

It's not hard to design them to be relatively quick regional events. The problem you and Visch are having is that you can't imagine a HNM that isn't like you already know it to be.

If Fafnir spawned to the North Americans at 9PM EST, Europeans at 9PM GMT, and Japanese players at 9AM GMT every day, with shortened windows, you wouldn't need 3 hours to participate and an ultra flexible schedule.

[Scarface]

It's not hard to design them to be relatively quick regional events. The problem you and Visch are having is that you can't imagine a HNM that isn't like you already know it to be.

If Fafnir spawned to the North Americans at 9PM EST, Europeans at 9PM GMT, and Japanese players at 9AM GMT every day, with shortened windows, you wouldn't need 3 hours to participate and an ultra flexible schedule.

And then the same LSs camps it three times a day and then what?

Well then you represent an irrelevant minority of players who has no chance at being heard. Again, you just want to look pretty and force the crowd to look different from you, because it's the only way anyone would ever respect you and Visch.

How can you speak like this when you come from Dips?

I just...I just cannot understand it. I could flame you so hard, but I wont. Back to topic... Having a NM spawn three times a day doesn't make gear rare. Seriously.

[Zkieve]

And then the same LSs camps it three times a day and then what?

<true strike > XDDDDDDD
personally i liked poped nms, with super-mega-hard to find/low drop pop items.
it is in the end much more fun and equally time consuming.

HNM 24h --> log on
/l did hnm died ? what time it poped ?
/l o damn its dead, o well ill log off wut is tod ? okay i got work at that time tomorrow, o well see ya later all!.

HNM poped.
/l log on Anyone wants to farm X item? okay meet at X place.
repeat for few days/weeks until get drop
/l pop fight , good luck on drop.

I would take second scenario personally on a heart beat.
Blhe ,in the end all depends how "hard " is to kill the mobs and how many people can kill them/complete the requirements.In few words, it depends on how good the developers are.making rare becouse it "pops" less often is a lazy way to develope "rare" and im not a fan of that.Lazy devs are lazy .

[Peregrine]

And then the same LSs camps it three times a day and then what?



How can you speak like this when you come from Dips?

I just...I just cannot understand it. I could flame you so hard, but I wont. Back to topic... Having a NM spawn three times a day doesn't make gear rare. Seriously.

You can't flame a thing here. You're the brunt of the joke. Again, look around you. You are an endangered species, and it's for a reason.

If Fafnir spawned during reasonable NA primetime every day, you and your merry band of harcores would never get the claim. You'd stay up to catch Europe spawn, but again. The Germans would roll you over easily as you've been up for 12 hours. You take a nap and try again for the JP spawn.

Latency and all. Sucks for you!

It's not the frequency of the spawn that you couldn't stand. It's that your competition at predictable times would render you impotent. You want a HNM with such stupid spawn mechanics that ideally you are the only one out there.

It's because you can't compete with the rest of us that you even want HNMs designed the way you do. You make up for a lack of talent by staying up 5 more hours.

[Visch]

You can't flame a thing here. You're the brunt of the joke. Again, look around you. You are an endangered species, and it's for a reason.

If Fafnir spawned during reasonable NA primetime every day, you and your merry band of harcores would never get the claim. You'd stay up to catch Europe spawn, but again. The Germans would roll you over easily as you've been up for 12 hours. You take a nap and try again for the JP spawn.

Latency and all. Sucks for you!

It's not the frequency of the spawn that you couldn't stand. It's that your competition at predictable times would render you impotent.

We would get it after you rage it.