New NMs

[Jinko]

You shouldn't be as well geared as someone who plays much more than that. Simple.

So basically its an epeen thing ?

[Zkieve]

So basically its an epeen thing ?

Think so, the problem i see is that by example , when i played FFXI, the real leet gear was salvage/odin gear , and not HNM gear(for the most part).
Salvage was just to much fun.Dont know what happened after i left ffxi.
Those were the times.
I still dream about that full set of usukane i never completed , /cry

[Visch]

Think so, the problem i see is that by example , when i played FFXI, the real leet gear was salvage/odin gear , and not HNM gear(for the most part).
Salvage was just to much fun.Dont know what happened after that.
Those were the times.

I was NIN and SAM in XI so almost all of my gear was from instances. I had full Usukane, shadow ring/mantle. No matter what nothing was leeter than D ring. Nothing.

HNM drops were WAY harder to get than instanced stuff no matter how hard the actual fight is.

[Zkieve]

I was NIN and SAM in XI so almost all of my gear was from instances. I had full Usukane, shadow ring/mantle. No matter what nothing was leeter than D ring. Nothing.

HNM drops were WAY harder to get than instanced stuff no matter how hard the actual fight is.

I think you just explained my problem with HNMs type of mechanics better than i could.Harder fight should be = better rewards.Is a flaw in the concept of the game imo.They were harder to get solely because of competition. On a PvE game world NMs on 24h is a mistake imo.

If this was a PvP game and you fight others to get the reward i would agree with you 100%, but unfortunatly a "claim" fight is not fun or healthy.Claiming faster =/= better.

[Visch]

I think you just explained my problem with HNMs type of mechanics better than i could.Harder fight should be = better rewards.Is a flaw in the concept of the game imo.They were harder to get solely because of competition. On a PvE game world NMs on 24h is a mistake imo.

It doesn't matter how hard a fight is though. If it's possible to do everyone will be able to organize and do it if it's instanced. Which leads to everyone getting the gear in a few months...

We do as well, but Emulate is definitely a deciding factor. If its not for Emulate, we just throw in someone that can keep hate with more HP than should be needed and its GG.

But your 6man party is within the 4-8 party range that SE promotes.
Is that an issue now? You can low man NMs, the games too easy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNknL...feature=relmfu

Too easy bro.

[Zkieve]

It doesn't matter how hard a fight is though. If it's possible to do everyone will be able to organize and do it if it's instanced. Which leads to everyone getting the gear in a few months...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNknL...feature=relmfu

Too easy bro.

In a perfect case scenario when this happens, harder challenges would be introduced.But i see your point, even if i dont agree with it , mainly becouse i never really enjoyed my 3 months camping KB for the damned ring or the 2 speed belts i got.Bigest waste of my life right there, personally i would not want to repeat that.

[Visch]

In a perfect case scenario when this happens, harder challenges would be introduced.But i see your point, even if i dont agree with it , mainly becouse i never really enjoyed my 3 months camping KB for the damned ring or the 2 speed belts i got.Bigest waste of my life right there, personally i would not want to repeat that.

I camped KA for 2 years before I got a belt for my NIN. I never felt like I wasted anything. I felt unlucky, but accomplished. Something I haven't felt in this game at all.

[Poipori]

It doesn't matter how hard a fight is though. If it's possible to do everyone will be able to organize and do it if it's instanced. Which leads to everyone getting the gear in a few months...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNknL...feature=relmfu

Too easy bro.

No, if it is really hard, casual players might even take years to get it, like rdm AF2.

I don't see what is wrong with casual people eventually getting great items, you elites will get it much faster anyway, there is no need to block access to the normal people who don't have time to spend 3hrs "waiting"

[Scarface]

No, if it is really hard, casual players might even take years to get it, like rdm AF2.

I don't see what is wrong with casual people eventually getting great items, you elites will get it much faster anyway, there is no need to block access to the normal people who don't have time to spend 3hrs "waiting"

RDM AF2 wasnt hard, was limited to doing it X amount of times per week and low drop rate...my entire POINT.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Think so, the problem i see is that by example , when i played FFXI, the real leet gear was salvage/odin gear , and not HNM gear(for the most part).
Salvage was just to much fun.Dont know what happened after i left ffxi.
Those were the times.
I still dream about that full set of usukane i never completed , /cry

people got bored of salvage. And zeni got introduced. I never got a chance to do salvage. And i really wanted that morrigan set for my rdm ; ;
most salavge times were not for me.