New NMs

[Scarface]

Sure....make that same item virtually useless as well. So you're not required to do that to be considered for groups. All you're doing is creating elitism imposing such artificial barriers. Why not make it triggerable with a guild leve reset/week repop timer, make it hard, make it resistant to emulate, and make the drop rate something better.

This post shows that you want this game to stay how it is now. Which is, *** mobs, with *** players, in *** LSs that kill them with 15 people and think they're leet ***.

[Sojiro]

This post shows that you want this game to stay how it is now. Which is, shit mobs, with shit players, in shit LSs that kill them with 15 people and think they're leet shit.

WTF IS SO GOD DAMN LEET ABOUT THE ABILITY TO CAMP SOMETHING FOR MORE TIME THAN SOMEONE ELSE?

What would really be the big difference making something have a world 24 hour pop or having a triggered pop you can only do once a week? You don't have to sit there waiting for hours on end, firing up a bot program just to actually fight the damn thing. You can keep the mob/item rare since you can only do it once a week, but more importantly you actually have a chance to even do it.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

WTF ON EARTH IS SO GOD DAMN LEET ABOUT THE ABILITY TO CAMP SOMETHING FOR MORE TIME THAN SOMEONE ELSE?

What would really be the big difference making something have a world 24 hour pop or having a a triggered pop you can only do once a week? You don't have to sit there waiting for hours on end, firing up a bot program just to actually fight the damn thing. You can keep the mob/item rare since you can only do it once a week, but more importantly you actually have a chance to even do it.

Quoted for truth. Just because you can run around all hours of the night makes you more committed to the game than someone else? Skill equals how much time you can waste camping one mob? This is news to me.

[Scarface]

WTF IS SO GOD DAMN LEET ABOUT THE ABILITY TO CAMP SOMETHING FOR MORE TIME THAN SOMEONE ELSE?

Ability to camp + Kill it on the fly being unprepared for pop (without buffs on and everyone lined up in the right positions). Having it pop on top of your only tank and killing him, making you have to wing it and fight some hard shit with half your group.... These are the things that happen.

Someone like yourself will be killing Uraeus for the next 6 months trying to figure out why your mages keep dying to body slam.

[Sojiro]

Ability to camp + Kill it on the fly being unprepared for pop (without buffs on and everyone lined up in the right positions). Having it pop on top of your only tank and killing him, making you have to wing it and fight some hard shit with half your group.... These are the things that happen.

Someone like yourself will be killing Uraeus for the next 6 months trying to figure out why your mages keep dying to body slam.

Of course you're assuming you get the pop and not the other 3 LS' standing around all day. Lol so now i'm a baddie because I don't feel we need artificial barriers to prevent someone a chance to even do the encounter huh? Shit, if all I needed was to be jobless, playing a game where I spend the majority of my time standing still waiting for something to pop to give me "skill" I should have done it long ago.

[Scarface]

Of course you're assuming you get the pop and not the other 3 LS' standing around all day. Lol so now i'm a baddie because I don't feel we need artificial barriers to prevent someone a chance to even do the encounter huh?

You're a baddie because you don't see how having 24hr NM pops with 1hr random windows can pose other difficulties other than being able to camp it.

[Carmillia]

You're a baddie because you don't see how having 24hr NM pops with 1hr random windows can pose other difficulties other than being able to camp it.

Oh yeah, the difficulty to stay awake until 3 in the morning to be there when it pops and have to go to work at 9am (without having had the claim of course)? The difficulty to wait for hours without just dying of boredomeness? I'm very curious about what 'difficulties' you are talking about.

[Sojiro]

Oh yeah, the difficulty to stay awake until 3 in the morning to be there when it pops and have to go to work at 9am (without having had the claim of course)? The difficulty to wait for hours without just dying of boredomeness? I'm very curious about what 'difficulties' you are talking about.

You forgot the "proness" of getting the claim from the other 3 LS'.

[Visch]

Oh yeah, the difficulty to stay awake until 3 in the morning to be there when it pops and have to go to work at 9am (without having had the claim of course)? The difficulty to wait for hours without just dying of boredomeness? I'm very curious about what 'difficulties' you are talking about.

The point of a 24 hour NM if you can't camp it every time. Do you not understand that? You have to be commited to the game to get what you want. You can't just go get it anytime you want.

Did you even play XI?? Like seriously? If you attention span can't last 3 hours then why are you playing an MMO? You probably wouldn't have even been able to get an exp PT if you're the ADHD.

I'm okay with 20+ hour respawns as long as the rewards are based on contribution rather than whoever has the fastest claimbot.

The claiming system of NMs in XI made claim bots completely ineffective. It was all luck and commitment to show and have a shot.

[Scarface]

Oh yeah, the difficulty to stay awake until 3 in the morning to be there when it pops and have to go to work at 9am (without having had the claim of course)? The difficulty to wait for hours without just dying of boredomeness? I'm very curious about what 'difficulties' you are talking about.

DO YOU READ?????????? Let's say a mob (a monster for people like you) pops in 3 different zones. So you're all spread out, it pops in 1 of the zones and kills half your party, the rest of you get there, but half to pull some shit out to even survive. The rest of the people come and watch you fight lagging you to death because they want you to die, your weakened comrades come back and start fighting....This is the shit you will not experience with forced pop NMs, or instances..

THAT IS A LAYER OF DIFFICULTY CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT? Or all you see is "ZOMG 24hr NM NOOO"