New NMs

[Visch]

Casual players like that have a their own place, and those are offline games. If they are not committed then they should not be playing MMOs.

Exactly. I don't understand what they want.

Who honestly thinks someone playing 10 hours a week should be at the same level as someone playing almost everyday all day? It takes the fun away of even playing.

which is what happen in ffxi anyway effort don';t mean time it took. It means what you did to earn it. If you fought the nm you did the effort to get the item.

Putting time in to getting something is effort. Commitment. Effort is not hitting X or 1 500 times with your eyes going in different directions.