New NMs

[Corrderio]

Don't you guys know they could easy just make HNM be 24-3days pop and allow you get the same item by doing BCNM type system? but no you guys are to in a hurry to bitch about 24+hours nm pop to even think about that.

FFXI did it that how i got one of my black belt item the rest was HNM -.- and i told myself i wont ever do HNM again to much work but i still want to see them in the game.

Then the hardcores would bitch about gear being too common later down the road. There pretty much isn't a middle ground.

[Jeronlmo]

Heres an idea me and my ls just had for HNM's.

Make all non-HNM gear just be smooth and kinda meh but the exact same stats as HNM gear.

While HNM gear has cool looking spikes and stuff.

Ill be wearing spikes, you will look boring, problem solved, you have the best gear in game but you still fail, the world is well.

[Akumu]

There are plenty of ways to add rare great pieces of armor without having people waste 24hrs of life and fight against bots just to get. Full parties will get the best gear from dungeons and fighting NMs. Light parties will will get the good but not great pieces.

This game will not get 24hr HNMs just appeal to a small base that have a lot of time on their hands. Games can become challenging and harder without setting major time sinks.

I'm hoping battle positions play a bigger part in tactics.

hardcore =/= casual and it will always be that way. However, wanting major time sinks doesn't even make you hardcore. You're just someone that has major time on his/her hands.

[Visch]

There are plenty of ways to add rare great pieces of armor without having people waste 24hrs of life and fight against bots just to get. Full parties will get the best gear from dungeons and fighting NMs. Light parties will will get the good but not great pieces.

This game will not get 24hr HNMs just appeal to a small base that have a lot of time on their hands. Games can become challenging and harder without setting major time sinks. I'm hoping battle positions play a bigger part in tactics.

What are you just making stuff up now? How do you know what will happen?

No one has to waste 24 hours of their life beCAUSE THE WINDOW IS ONLY 3 HOURS LONG. It could pop right off the bat you don't know. Is it really asking that much? Really?

[Jeronlmo]

@ Zenaku

Thats been stated but from the HNM people, ff11 had ein for HNM gear for the most part, casuals will never be happy.

Were not asking for HNM's right now, 75+ will do.

[Zenaku]

@ Zenaku

Thats been stated but from the HNM people, ff11 had ein for HNM gear for the most part, casuals will never be happy.

Were not asking for HNM's right now, 75+ will do.

Still casuals can just do a long ass quest chain or do a bcnm type mission to get the gear. Or wait 24+hours for the pop make both players type happy and if they think it still dumb idea then "Causals players" can't really see am middle ground to anything and should just go play something else or deal with it. Some players want to do something more hard the just solo all the dumb mission and zerg the nm like we are doing now,.

@corrderio: for the Causals BCNM type make the drop rate pretty low. If they bitch about that and can't meet a middle ground then i'm sorry FFXIV is not for you. Meet us hardcore somewhere in the middle or leave. Make HNM 24+hours a good drop rate but still hard to get and then the causal way low drop rate.

Hardcore and causals need to meet in the middle or this game would just fail.

make this game

50% Causlas and 50% hardcore and i love it at least there 50% of stuff i can do as a hardcore player.

@Visch ya that very true, 1-3hour pop is not bad all you have to do is get the dumb ass TOD if you to lazy for that then i'm sorry get out.

[Hypnotoad]

Liek srsly guise we dont need 24 hour repops...
We need 48 hour repops on a 24 hour window with a low chance of even happening and at stagnant hours of the weekday.
This will weed out the camp trash bags with puny poorly made thousand dollar programs they bought with their basement income of RMT activites from the super genetically engineeered campers on steroids, only then can we have a truly meaningful and worthwhile came that caters to the best of the best players who truly deserve to get the gear instead of all these little scrawny pasty guys... who havent learned that you dont need to take care of your daily needs yourself when you have doctors and aids around the clock monitoring your vitals to ensure the best transition of a automated camp schedule on the dot.

I mean c'mon, 24 hours? Thats a joke to my kind.

Inb4 some camper trash bag makes another comment on camping timers needing to be 24 hours to push out the termed "casuals", if you're not pushing yourself to strive into longer spans then 24 hours to challenge yourself mentally and physically on all levels... Then its no different than wanting a monopoly to be placed on items to your liking.

Also, LOL at the people wanting more "hardcore" suited content when the game has been stated for a more casual player base of lower tier humanoids, you're surely not getting it first.

No.94732 Signing.

[Visch]

Liek srsly guise we dont need 24 hour repops...
We need 48 hour repops on a 24 hour window with a low chance of even happening and at stagnant hours of the weekday

I liked this part.

This will weed out the camp trash bags with puny poorly made thousand dollar programs they bought with their basement income of RMT activites from the super genetically engineeered campers on steroids, only then can we have a truly meaningful and worthwhile came that caters to the best of the best players who truly deserve to get the gear instead of all these little scrawny pasty guys... who havent learned that you dont need to take care of your daily needs yourself when you have doctors and aids around the clock monitoring your vitals to ensure the best transition of a automated camp schedule on the dot.

I mean c'mon, 24 hours? Thats a joke to my kind.

Inb4 some camper trash bag makes another comment on camping timers needing to be 24 hours to push out the termed "casuals", if you're not pushing yourself to strive into longer spans then 24 hours to challenge yourself mentally and physically on all levels... Then its no different than wanting a monopoly to be placed on items to your liking.

Also, LOL at the people wanting more "hardcore" suited content when the game has been stated for a more casual player base of lower tier humanoids, you're surely not getting it first.

No.94732 Signing.

I didn't like this part much.

What are you even talking about? In an interview forever ago someone said "We had XIV to have more options for casual gamers but the competition aspects will please hardcore XI players" or something like that.

[Moth]

So basically you are all saying that if you cannot play the game how you want it then you are gonna quit OH MAMA

[Keftenk]

So basically you are all saying that if you cannot play the game how you want it then you are gonna quit OH MAMA

Didn't you say you were going to combust if this game went casual? OH MAMA