MMO Launches

[Aviva]

As much as you all want to complain he is a little right heres one example after just a short amount of searching.
http://forums.riftgame.com/general-d...index2253.html

i think you all will see a commonality.

[Azurus]

As much as you all want to complain he is a little right heres one example after just a short amount of searching.
http://forums.riftgame.com/general-d...index2253.html

i think you all will see a commonality.

I played rift for quite some time from Beta well through release and it was nowhere near as bad as this. It was worst for the EU customers just because trion had shitty EU support but it was still a lot smoother than this. I consider rift to be one of the best launches of an MMO ever and many agree. Ill also just ignore the fact that Rift was released 3 years ago....

An expansion to an already existing game with a plateau'd population doesn't count as an "MMO launch." WoW's launch was very rough with long login queues and other issues when it started. Counting one of WoW's expansions among MMO launchis is just ludicrous.

not really true considering the amount of people who would come back for WoW expansion launches often outnumbered those who would show up on launch days of new MMOs. WoW expansions could see the population swing up by as much as a couple hundred thousand players...

[Nero]

I consider rift to be one of the best launches of an MMO ever and many agree. Ill also just ignore the fact that Rift was released 3 years ago....

Ok, so because it was smooth for you and because you didnt experience the Problems Rift had, those Problems did not exist and made it the "best" launch?.. Ok, here we go... I did experience 1 Login Problem today and 1 yesterday between 2 Maintances, did not get kicked once and doing quests, instances etc etc without a problem. So according to your logic; this must be the best launch of a MMO then?

fair enough.

[Azurus]

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fair enough.

lol failwhiteknight but ill bite. The difference here is that rifts problems effected far less people than FFXIV's currently are and for a far less time period. Seriously man how long did you play rift for anyway? The first day was the only bad one and throughout that whole time the devs were in open discussion through the forums tot he playerbase the entire time. None of that has happened here. This is far worse than rifts launch and its right up their with WoWs as far im concerned taking in to account SE had 10+ years of history and an already released MMO to learn from. Keep blindly defending though and youll get your dream of FFXIV 1.0 II.

fair enough?

[ispano]

lol failwhiteknight but ill bite. The difference here is that rifts problems effected far less people than FFXIV's currently are and for a far less time period. Seriously man how long did you play rift for anyway? The first day was the only bad one and throughout that whole time the devs were in open discussion through the forums tot he playerbase the entire time. None of that has happened here. This is far worse than rifts launch and its right up their with WoWs as far im concerned taking in to account SE had 10+ years of history and an already released MMO to learn from. Keep blindly defending though and youll get your dream of FFXIV 1.0 II.

fair enough?

You may wish to use the proper term, White Knight isn't the one. You also may wish to truly understand the term you should be using, because you don't seem to understand that either. I'll be one of the first to point out SE's flaws, or any other company for that matter. This is barely the second day, and I can already see the issues getting better. I won't repeat my last post, you can go read it yourself, but knowing the type you are, you will just try to label me and ignore it.

[Nero]

lol failwhiteknight but ill bite.

No Idea what exactly i "white knighted", but yea lets "troll" a little.

The difference here is that rifts problems effected far less people than FFXIV's currently are and for a far less time period.

During early Access it did affect everyone not "far less" people. You are obviously talking about Rifts actual Launch and not the Early Access. 1. ARR did not launch yet and 2. during 6 days of EA in Rift i was only able to play 12 hours tops, due 5-6 hours queue times.

Seriously man how long did you play rift for anyway? The first day was the only bad one and throughout that whole time the devs were in open discussion through the forums tot he playerbase the entire time.

Thought so.. you do not talk about Early Access from Rift, just Launch.

This is far worse than rifts launch and its right up their with WoWs as far im concerned taking in to account SE had 10+ years of history and an already released MMO to learn from.

WoW was bugged and unstable for ~10 Month and apparently i was not aware that ARR is running allready that long...

did i do it right? enough with the trolling and actually i did not defend the problems of ARR's early access. But yeah.. see what you want to see.

[Aviva]

I played rift for quite some time from Beta well through release and it was nowhere near as bad as this. It was worst for the EU customers just because trion had shitty EU support but it was still a lot smoother than this. I consider rift to be one of the best launches of an MMO ever and many agree. Ill also just ignore the fact that Rift was released 3 years ago.....

Right so it was good because only the EU had problems.
So, in a few years when the JPs say the same thing about this launch it'l be the best launch ever.

[Azurus]

Right so it was good because only the EU had problems.
So, in a few years when the JPs say the same thing about this launch it'l be the best launch ever.

lol keep bending my point to serve your failed logic idc. fact is the problems of this launch have effected literally everybody playing to various degrees. And the game breaking bugs have effected far more people then Rifts ever did. So go on keep defending a 3 day fail obt and a severe inbalance in server distribution. the fact remains that launches have been done much better and just because some are also bad does not mean its ok to repeat past mistakes.

You may wish to use the proper term, White Knight isn't the one. You also may wish to truly understand the term you should be using, because you don't seem to understand that either. I'll be one of the first to point out SE's flaws, or any other company for that matter. This is barely the second day, and I can already see the issues getting better. I won't repeat my last post, you can go read it yourself, but knowing the type you are, you will just try to label me and ignore it.

did I quote you? I dont even remember mentioning you? care to elaborate on when I labeled you?

[ispano]

did I quote you? I dont even remember mentioning you? care to elaborate on when I labeled you?

May wish to re-read my post. I said "you will" not that you had. However, you have already done it to others, so I knew you would try to pull it on anyone who has knowledge of how these things work. You'll just say they blindly defend without being rational or logical.

[Alhanelem]

WOTLK - no issues other then minor lag and some monsters wouldn't re-spawn now and then

An expansion to an already existing game with a plateau'd population doesn't count as an "MMO launch." WoW's launch was very rough with long login queues and other issues when it started. Counting one of WoW's expansions among MMO launchis is just ludicrous.