Party size reduction a good change?

[TubalaTrommler]

I don't know about your server Tubala, but the only NM that actually has competition on mine is Dodore and the most I see on a busy day is 4 linkshells. The rest almost never have any competition.

We get 4 or 5 shells on a busy day, but its not just at dodore, everyone ports around to try an make the most of their time while leaving a mule at dodore for weather.

People will never 'take turns' at claiming, and they shouldn't have to. if one mob is being fought, then there should be alternatives to go to. With smaller groups, even if there are alternatives, there will be the same number of groups at each NM, rather than 1-2 at one and 1-2 at another. With multiple groups you will end out with more people standing around doing nothing which will just frustrate people.

[Mikita]

What about people who have more than 8 friends!?!? AAAHHH ;A;

Same here. I'm really disappointed by their decision to cap parties at 8 people. I guess SE somehow got the impression that many of their players have poor social skills and cannot make friends. Very, very sad.

[Dubont]

Same here. I'm really disappointed by their decision to cap parties at 8 people. I guess SE somehow got the impression that many of their players have poor social skills and cannot make friends. Very, very sad.

less people in party = more skill needed to kill things. I, for one, was never happy with seeing a mob of 15 people running around all of the time...

[Mikita]

less people in party = more skill needed to kill things. I, for one, was never happy with seeing a mob of 15 people running around all of the time...

That's fine and I don't disagree with your point. But there's currently nothing stopping people from forming smaller parties if they want to play with more skill than the rest of us. Why put a hard cap on everyone and force people to exclude some of their friends?

[Dubont]

That's fine and I don't disagree with your point. But there's currently nothing stopping people from forming smaller parties if they want to play with more skill than the rest of us. Why put a hard cap on everyone and force people to exclude some of their friends?

well, why do all games do this? Atlantica, you can only play with 2 friends. FFXI, you can only play with 5 friends. At least here, you can play with 7 friends if you like. I, again, think that 15 is too large...but if people disagree with caps, why don't we just let everyone join one massive party? That would work right!? Actually...lol that would be pretty funny to see...just the entire server running around killing everything in one giant party...

[Razzle]

i think they should have left the cap at 15 (or even higher) and just place a very high SP panelty on group with 9 players or more.

That way people would do 8 player party for ranking up, and 9+ party for NM

problem solved

[Mikita]

well, why do all games do this? Atlantica, you can only play with 2 friends. FFXI, you can only play with 5 friends. At least here, you can play with 7 friends if you like. I, again, think that 15 is too large...

Again, there is nothing to stop people from forming smaller parties as the game stands before Patch 1.17.

I don't care what other games do. I play FFXIV to have fun with my friends, who happen to number a lot more than 8 people.

For FFXIV it's obviously not a technical limitation. They are just trying to appease people who complain, and are simply being too reactive here.

[Dubont]

Again, there is nothing to stop people from forming smaller parties as the game stands before Patch 1.17.

I don't care what other games do. I play FFXIV to have fun with my friends, who happen to number a lot more than 8 people.

For FFXIV it's obviously not a technical limitation. They are just trying to appease people who complain, and are simply being too reactive here.

True, there is nothing stopping from forming smaller parties, but humans are opportunists. If they can do something, they will do it. If they can make 15 man parties, they will, just because they can. If they can jump, they will...just because they can. I'm in favor of the cap, in most aspects, because leve links usually cap after 3-4 links, so there is not really any point to have 15 people, unless you just want to play with friends. I'm all for people playing with their friends, but you don't have to be in a party with 14 friends at all times. This also brings up another question, with the old party cap, what will happen to the people that have more than 14 friends? Why could they not party with their friends? I have 37 friends...why can't I play with all of them at once? See my issue?

[Laughlyn]

@ OP, i think it might be good, seeing as there's still a lack of active players around.

[Mikita]

True, there is nothing stopping from forming smaller parties, but humans are opportunists. If they can do something, they will do it. If they can make 15 man parties, they will, just because they can.

That is largely true. But people also have the free will to choose what they do.
If someone believes that they get more satisfaction out of playing in smaller parties using more skill, then please do so.

The biggest issue is behests where you have no control. But in all other instances you can create smaller groups and play as you like.

This also brings up another question, with the old party cap, what will happen to the people that have more than 14 friends? Why could they not party with their friends? I have 37 friends...why can't I play with all of them at once? See my issue?

No, not really. I'd like to be able to play with more than 15 people, but understand that at some point there will probably be technical issues.

I still don't see the logic in diminishing the party cap. Being forced to play with fewer people doesn't suddenly make the game more fun.