Only 6 EU Servers?!?

[Leyvin]

Well first, your math is wrong if you're going by Overall Population or Potential Market... even more so as the more important aspect of a Server / Shard is how many concurrent players it can handle.
It makes sense there are more Japanese Servers Available, given that is where Square Enix (and most importantly the Development Team) are located ... this means they likely will be the most stable with fixes / maintenance taking less time due to local access rather than remote access.

In-fact the simple fact that problems continue to plague the NA / EU Servers, while the JP ones remain stable actually point to the issue not being the Game or Network Code; but simply a Server issue, and I'm not even convinced the problem is with the load as connection remains constantly Excellent and even in-game things are smooth. The fact there are connection time-outs, unresponsive services, etc... points far more to the Server Cluster itself is not setup properly.
I mean with usual server 'overload' you see it struggle with that extra load, but there has simply been non of that - it either works or doesn't. The only way it is that black'n'white when networks are concern is when the Routing is improperly setup.

[Dingo9012]

Actually my Math is based on a simple "Population of [Europe/North America/Japan]" Search on google, which comes up with a big blocky number in google, which I then divided by the number of servers designated for that region, ie: 25 JP, 19 NE, 6 EU...which came to those figures I listed above, rounded up or down to the nearest million...try it for yourself? I never specified potential markets, demographics, or anything other than population size.

Secondly...when creating a character on a JP Server, you have the ability to create on ALL servers...conversely, when trying to create a character on an EU server, they were ALL unavailable, as were several NA servers. This would mean that the JP servers are not at maximum capacity, while ALL of the EU servers and some of the NA servers were. Based on population alone we can see that Europe has a larger potential market seeing as how there are roughly 6 times more people in the whole of Europe than in Japan, and 200 million more than in North America, and yet we have considerably less servers to choose from...this is just terrible planning and has nothing to do with server location or server issues, it is just a lack of foresight on SE's behalf, and a failure to observe data from the Beta Phase 4 Weekend as I stated above.

As for the rest of your speculations; There is no overload because the servers are not getting anywhere near overload, they are simply accepting a low maximum capacity that is easily dealt with and then going grey so no more characters can be created, thereby blocking anyone else who wishes to play in the EU from playing on those servers. Just read the message that was posted 5 hours ago by Naoki Yoshida: http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/26/fina...s-server-woes/

[Fayto]

Quite frankly your math is bullshit since both NA and EU share the same data center, so it doesn't mean crap how many EU servers there are since they are in the same location as NA servers.

[wirewitch]

Quite frankly your math is bullshit since both NA and EU share the same data center, so it doesn't mean crap how many EU servers there are since they are in the same location as NA servers.

It's not bull at all, people want to play with others in their own time-zones for obvious reasons. Later in the game you don't want to be logging in for a raid in the small hours of the morning when you're meant to be at work the next day.

[Dingo9012]

Quite frankly your math is bullshit since both NA and EU share the same data center, so it doesn't mean crap how many EU servers there are since they are in the same location as NA servers.

As wirewitch said below:

It's not bull at all, people want to play with others in their own time-zones for obvious reasons. Later in the game you don't want to be logging in for a raid in the small hours of the morning when you're meant to be at work the next day.

I don't want to have to get online at 3/4/5 in the morning to go raiding with NA players who schedule raids for 6pm local time. Would you be willing to play in a guild, in a raid, with people who are 8-9 hours behind you, so while they're fresh home from work with an hour or two of rest you're watching the sun rise and worrying that this next boss might make you miss your bus to work? EU servers are for people running on typically GMT and upwards of one to two hours, so my argument still stands; Why are there only 6 EU Servers?!?

[Fayto]

As wirewitch said below:



I don't want to have to get online at 3/4/5 in the morning to go raiding with NA players who schedule raids for 6pm local time. Would you be willing to play in a guild, in a raid, with people who are 8-9 hours behind you, so while they're fresh home from work with an hour or two of rest you're watching the sun rise and worrying that this next boss might make you miss your bus to work? EU servers are for people running on typically GMT and upwards of one to two hours, so my argument still stands; Why are there only 6 EU Servers?!?

Yes because I AM in an EU guild and I am in America. Like I said, EU servers ARE the same thing as NA servers. They are in the same location and use the same data center. Your entire post is irrelevant.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

As someone stated in another thread, the whole labeling of JP and NA/EU server is unnecessary.

Pretty much all servers have the same ping, so they could have simply removed this arbitrary categorization (especially for NA/EU) and let everyone choose whichever server they wanted.


Result: less crowded servers, and we might have had the chance to play decently during the last weekend.

[wirewitch]

Yes because I AM in an EU guild and I am in America. Like I said, EU servers ARE the same thing as NA servers. They are in the same location and use the same data center. Your entire post is irrelevant.

Wow...

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[Kyouki]

Like I said, EU servers ARE the same thing as NA servers. They are in the same location and use the same data center. Your entire post is irrelevant.

You dont get it, no? I dont think any EU person gives a damn where the servers actualy are located. Who cares if the ping is 20 or 100? That doesnt really change a thing. But what makes a difference is, that if a server is labeled as "EU" more "EU ppl" might wanna make that one their virtual home in hope to find "more EU ppl" to play with at "EU prime".

In FFXI i played with NA mostly and hell i was pissed 4 days a week when i watched them start NNE, Dynamis and all that other stuff 15 minutes before i had to log. Made me quit cause i dont pay for a "Massive Multiplayer Online Game" to play it on my own.

THAT is the point.

Finaly there is a higher chance for the EU gamers to play with other EU gamers. One of the main reasons i came back after i quit in v.1.

[Zetsumei_Sekai]

Quite frankly your math is bullshit since both NA and EU share the same data center, so it doesn't mean crap how many EU servers there are since they are in the same location as NA servers.

I hear this everywhere, but this is wrong. European players will most likely pick a server designated with EU because they will find people there mostly in line with their timezone. I picked EU because I want to raid during evenings instead of hearing the raid is planned for the middle of my night should I have played on a server designated as NA. It's really that simple.