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    Oasron's Avatar
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    Aubrey Easron
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I think this is a major fail in SE's part, in underestimating the amount of people with interest in this game. I find it very saddening that they have not put more thought in re-release of this game. If they were willing to make a second attempt with this game they should really have had all possible scenarios into play with a potential succeeding fix for this stuff. If they really intended for this to succeed they should have planned for these possibilities and been willing to put in more new servers/virtual servers to get there customers access to the game. They could have opened up fewer servers in the beginning and opened up more as they filled. The fact that their are so many people still getting these messages is showing that they did not do this. Being a very big fan of a lot of Squares work in the past it saddens me. I do still believe it is there intention to fix this. I say gods speed. In light of hearing they have no plans in implementing more servers does not sound very encouraging. This does not sound like the Square that I gave a lot of my money to growing up as a gamer. I still feel hopeful, but am becoming a bit of a skeptic at this point.
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    Meru Stormblessed
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    I like how they still haven't properly addressed this problem. I had hopes they'd have fixed it yesterday or atleast started to find a solution. Really disappointed in SE.
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    Para Digm
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    lol and after trying to log in now for about an hour - now they cant even retrieve the NA/EU servers
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    Chilled Milk
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    You see that they shut down 19 of 25 servers from creating new characters. just wow on day 1 no new players can join but japan gets brand new servers to hold up their stress levels which are none....
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    Dill Dozer
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    Jeezus. This 1017 error is absolutely ridiculous. I don't know about you guys but this is definitely not gonna fly with me if they don't figure it out asap. I understand the concepts of MMO launches. But even Diablo 3 (not an mmo) wasn't this bad. I've been a part of SWTOR, GW2, and several WoW expansion launches. None of them were this bad. I expect not to be able to log in for the first half, maybe even a full day. But it's been 3 complete days now (since early access), and that's not even counting the log-in problems during open beta. They can't even implement an effective queue system... just some shitty error message that basically states I have to either randomly try to log in during the day, or just mash my face against my keyboard trying over and over to connect. Absolutely infuriating. Put me in a REAL queue at least.
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    Pia Lior
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Having issues in Beta...fine. Having 1017 during EA, not cool but you can expect errors will be fixed by launch. Now, getting error 1017 at launch...this is unacceptable. What is the excuse now? I was part of beta3 an beta 4 and as far as i know this was for test stress servers. WTF happened? Makes me think betas were more a marketing strategy to create hype than actual tests. So far SE has solved shit!!!! This is definetly the last game I buy from them.
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    Para Digm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavetl View Post
    Having issues in Beta...fine. Having 1017 during EA, not cool but you can expect errors will be fixed by launch. Now, getting error 1017 at launch...this is unacceptable. What is the excuse now? I was part of beta3 an beta 4 and as far as i know this was for test stress servers. WTF happened? Makes me think betas were more a marketing strategy to create hype than actual tests. So far SE has solved shit!!!! This is definetly the last game I buy from them.
    In the spirit of being fair - you have to think, most of us weren't in Beta, and not even in p4beta because it was only 3 days long. most ppl just decided to wait for launch, so when they based thier predictions on beta numbers its no suprise that the servers then got destroyed on launch, though that is not an excuse for not being able to flex and respond.
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    when do we will solve this problem?
    i would like to play... since sunday.. i cant.. just server full.. server full...
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    Xiris Moontear
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    Most of you are expecting that SE "fix" the issues by programing and maintenance but let me inform you some things first.

    First: It is not a software problem, they just don't have enough hardware (machinery) to run the population on NA servers. What happen is, they have the SAME number of severs/computers in Japan as they have in North America (those are all in Montreal, Canada). So that’s why Japan servers are not suffering login issues.

    They BADLY underestimated how much players would play on THE REST OF THE WORLD and they may even had thought that they would have more japanese players than non-japanese. The servers just can't hold the amount of non-japanese players. There's no magic maintenance that can fix that. They HAVE to buy more machinery on Montreal and install it right away.

    Second: You think I'm defending and justifying for SE? Not at all, and here's why.

    This was a bad, baaaad move on their part. No respectable company start any kind of business without doing a SURVEY to estimate how many people are interested in the game. This kind of survey WORKS and its used on any kind of anything you sell to massive ammounts of people. Square Enix already KNOWS how much the Final Fantasy games were sold ever since more than 20 years ago and they also know that their last sales (FF12 and 13) were also well sold (at least "sold enough").

    And "not doing the survey" or "underestimating the player base" maybe COULD be a lame excuse for them screwing up on this. But then, from the last beta, they immediately began to sell the PRE-ORDER and from monday to friday they already knew how much people would be LOGGING IN THE GAME because THEY BOUGHT THE GAME! And even then, from open beta until now, they didn't bought a single hardware to expand servers capacities. They're not showing sign of giving a single... ok I'm gonna say CARE, about non-japanese player base.

    Third: Want to rage more? Look at this http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...d7c59b9e695188

    Japanese servers ARE NOT getting overwhelmed by japanese logins, but they are PREDICTING that the player base THERE is getting bigger and so they are PREVENTING them from getting ANY login difficulties, by expanding the japanese servers in advance. So they're doing THERE what could and should be done on NA servers ever since open beta closed and ever since they knew EXACTLY how many people bought the game outside japan (and YES they know where every buyer comes from because they use IP recognition to build a graphics to know how the product is being sold on the world).

    So yeah, even now, when they also don't have the excuse of "limited starting budget" because you ALREADY PRE-ORDERED THE GAME, they used the money to buy more hardware on Japan. So yeah, defend Square Enix all you want, but that’s what just happened. And I think that some day (and maybe not soon) they will buy hardware for NA datacenter and we'll all breathe calmly after weeks of headache...

    But I just want you to remember this: you're not their priority, not by far.
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    Last edited by Raposaum; 08-28-2013 at 05:28 AM.

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    Rauny Rosemarn
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Raposaum View Post
    Most of you are expecting that SE "fix" the issues by programing and maintenance but let me inform you some things first.

    First: It is not a software problem, they just don't have enough hardware (machinery) to run the population on NA servers. What happen is, they have the SAME number of severs/computers in Japan as they have in North America (those are all in Montreal, Canada). So that’s why Japan servers are not suffering login issues.

    They BADLY underestimated how much players would play on THE REST OF THE WORLD and they may even had thought that they would have more japanese players than non-japanese. The servers just can't hold the amount of non-japanese players. There's no magic maintenance that can fix that. They HAVE to buy more machinery on Montreal and install it right away.

    Second: You think I'm defending and justifying for SE? Not at all, and here's why.

    This was a bad, baaaad move on their part. No respectable company start any kind of business without doing a SURVEY to estimate how many people are interested in the game. This kind of survey WORKS and its used on any kind of anything you sell to massive ammounts of people. Square Enix already KNOWS how much the Final Fantasy games were sold ever since more than 20 years ago and they also know that their last sales (FF12 and 13) were also well sold (at least "sold enough").

    And "not doing the survey" or "underestimating the player base" maybe COULD be a lame excuse for them screwing up on this. But then, from the last beta, they immediately began to sell the PRE-ORDER and from monday to friday they already knew how much people would be LOGGING IN THE GAME because THEY BOUGHT THE GAME! And even then, from open beta until now, they didn't bought a single hardware to expand servers capacities. They're not showing sign of giving a single... ok I'm gonna say CARE, about non-japanese player base.

    Third: Want to rage more? Look at this http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...d7c59b9e695188

    Japanese servers ARE NOT getting overwhelmed by japanese logins, but they are PREDICTING that the player base THERE is getting bigger and so they are PREVENTING them from getting ANY login difficulties, by expanding the japanese servers in advance. So they're doing THERE what could and should be done on NA servers ever since open beta closed and ever since they knew EXACTLY how many people bought the game outside japan (and YES they know where every buyer comes from because they use IP recognition to build a graphics to know how the product is being sold on the world).

    So yeah, even now, when they also don't have the excuse of "limited starting budget" because you ALREADY PRE-ORDERED THE GAME, they used the money to buy more hardware on Japan. So yeah, defend Square Enix all you want, but that’s what just happened. And I think that some day (and maybe not soon) they will buy hardware for NA datacenter and we'll all breathe calmly after weeks of headache...

    But I just want you to remember this: you're not their priority, not by far.
    I have 14 days of game time, why would I ever continue to sub after 14 days if I can barely get an hour of gameplay a day?
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